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Default What Mutation is this Budgie?

Hi guys, I am wondering if anyone can tell me the mutation of this beautiful budgie. No, I do not intend to bring him home, I'm just curious.

He is all yellow with white cheek patches but he has a shadow of color on his wings. This was taken with no flash so he is mostly true to color except for the light on his head making it look white.

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Wow, the little one is beautiful!
I think he is a yellow dark eyed clear. Or maybe a double factor spangle budgie.
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I love his big black eyes! He was so beautiful just sitting there saying look at me! But I've not seen one before with shadows of color!

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I have a dark eyed clear fischer's lovebird, and looking at its colours and depending on the light it seems I can see some green, but he/she really has a very rich and deep yellow colour.
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So does anyone else want to take a guess at the mutation?

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another vote for dark eyed clear or df spangle. I *believe* you can tell by looking at their feet before their iris rings come in? One has pink feet, the other has purple/blue. I'd have to see if I can find that info somewhere again.
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Found it! DEC have pink feet (looks like yours does) and df spangle have blue or grey with pink
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Found it! DEC have pink feet (looks like yours does) and df spangle have blue or grey with pink
Unless the DF spangle also happens to have other mutations that have pink feet.

My guess is Dark Eyed Clear, because DF spangles are pretty rare in pet type budgies, and don't usually show up in pet stores. One clue to look for would be the other budgies he is with.

If there seems to be a lot of other single factor spangle budgies, then it would be a good guess that they could have a DF.

If the other budgies seem to be a lot of pieds, especially recessive pieds, then Dark Eyed Clear is more likely.

But you really won't know until it molts and then does or does not get iris rings. (Although, again, the DF spangle could be a recessive pied or a DEC itself. )

Green suffusion is pretty common. If you've ever seen it on a yellowface, it can be really beautiful.
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I've never seen a DEC in person before. I knew looked different and his eyes are what caught my attention first because they so big and beautiful. Are DEC's common in pet stores?

Also how can yo tell if male or female?

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I've never seen a DEC in person before. I knew looked different and his eyes are what caught my attention first because they so big and beautiful. Are DEC's common in pet stores?

Also how can yo tell if male or female?

Lisa
Males keep the pinkish purple ceres never maturing to the dark blue, they also keep the baby black eyes without iris ring. Just like in recessive pied males.
The females have the whitish ceres that will develop to the normal tan/brown colour when reaching maturity.

From the pic, it seems the little one is a boy.
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