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Thread Description:DF or SF Yellowface II?

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Old 10-19-2013, 09:13 AM
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Here is Rocket and I am curious if you can tell if he is a SF or DF Yellowface Type II at this stage. He is actually visually violet not blue, more like the non-flash photos but with the darkness of the flash photos. The yellow in the flash photos is pretty close to what he looks like too.

So my guess is violet spangle dominant pied Yellowface Type II. I am hoping for DF Yellowface so he will keep that lovely violet


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Old 10-19-2013, 09:43 AM
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I almost bought one just like that yesterday. But they told me it was a boy and i thought my first was a boy so i picked a diff color to get a girl. Then got home and realized the cere looks just like mine with the white top and pinkish bottom. So guessing i have two girls lol. I definitely want more.
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Oh my, he is gorgeous! He is a budgie napping candidate for sure

I think he is a double factor. All my single factor YFIIs I could see the yellow diffusing into the blue even from a young age. Rockets blue seems to be very true to colour so I am thinking it will stay that way. Will be interested to see if I am right
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Oh my, he is gorgeous! He is a budgie napping candidate for sure

I think he is a double factor. All my single factor YFIIs I could see the yellow diffusing into the blue even from a young age. Rockets blue seems to be very true to colour so I am thinking it will stay that way. Will be interested to see if I am right
Thanks so much! I will be sure to put the kitties on budgie napper alert!


Oooooh I hope so! I am afraid to get my hopes up though so I can just enjoy him for the beauty he brings, whatever that is! I did notice a very faint bit of yellow in the purple on his chest when the sun was shining on him. Time will tell. I am really interested to hear other peoples' experiences!
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Hi Nuts4Birdies,
Your 1-month-old juvenile budgie is a double factor yellow-faced type 2nd single factor violet-cobalt normal spangle budgie.

I had three double factor yellow-faced type 2nd skyblue normal spangle budgies, they had their bodies same colour as for single factor yellow-faced type 1st skyblue normal budgies.

When your bird reach 7 month old, he will have same purple body, but pale yellow upperside (slightly yellower than juvenile plumage your bird is now wearing today) and yellow face.

I had a single-factor yellow-faced type 2nd cobalt normal spangle budgie, he is similar in appearance to your bird, but its secondaries, with secondary coverts are yellow.

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1st photo: Left bird is single factor yellow-faced type 2nd cobalt normal spangle, the right bird is double factor yellow-faced type 2nd skyblue normal spangle.

2nd photo: Both birds are double factor yellow-faced type 2nd cobalt normal spangle budgies, with top bird is 1-year-old father and below bird is his 1-month-old son.

3rd photo: 1st photo: This bird by ball, is a 1-month-old single factor yellow-faced type 2nd cobalt normal spangle budgie.

4th photo: This bird is a 1-month-old double factor yellow-faced type 2nd skyblue normal spangle budgie in juvenile plumage.

5th photo: This bird is a 1-year-old double factor yellow-faced type 2nd skyblue normal spangle budgie in adult plumage.
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Your 1-month-old juvenile budgie is a double factor yellow-faced type 2nd single factor violet-cobalt normal spangle budgie.

I had three double factor yellow-faced type 2nd skyblue normal spangle budgies, they had their bodies same colour as for single factor yellow-faced type 1st skyblue normal budgies.

When your bird reach 7 month old, he will have same purple body, but pale yellow upperside (slightly yellower than juvenile plumage your bird is now wearing today) and yellow face.

I had a single-factor yellow-faced type 2nd cobalt normal spangle budgie, he is similar in appearance to your bird, but its secondaries, with secondary coverts are yellow.
Thanks so much for sharing your pics and experience! I am getting more and more hopeful that he will stay his pretty violet!
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