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Old 11-04-2013, 01:06 PM
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Post What mutation are my new baby budgies?

Hello all,
I'm new to this site. I was wondering if anyone could help me to tell me the exact mutation my baby budgies? Pictures are posted in the attachments below this post, or you can click on the links provided in the post.

The parents of the 2 baby budgies:

mother (Zoey): green, 1 dark factor with no mutations
father (Toby): cobalt blue, pied (spot on his head, and a few clear flight feathers)

(I could be incorrect about that. I did a lot of studying and that's what I think they are.)


Ok so the baby budgies: This is my guess but I could be wrong: The white one is a white based double factor dominant pied? something like that, and the green one is a pied of some sort due to the yellow spot on the back of it's head as well as a few clear flight feathers. (I'm not sure of the sex yet either.) My guess is the white one is a male and the green is female due to the white one having a dark pink/purplish blue; the green having slight white rings around it's holes in it's cere.

Here are the babies, these shots were taken at almost 5 weeks (the white is 5 weeks old today, and green will be 5 weeks on Thursday):
Here is the whole family budgie shot!
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If you need more pictures or better pictures please let me know. Thank you for any advice or feedback!
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The pictures are adorable, they look like a happy little family!
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You LUCKY thing! Your white baby is a recessive pied male -you can tell because the marks on his wings are right at the bottom. Both parents must have been split for recessive pied. (its my favourite mutation so I'm jealous!)
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The pictures are adorable, they look like a happy little family!
Thank you Bushy!
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You LUCKY thing! Your white baby is a recessive pied male -you can tell because the marks on his wings are right at the bottom. Both parents must have been split for recessive pied. (its my favourite mutation so I'm jealous!)
Thank you so much Ditta! I thought it was very awesome to have a white baby!! Ok so recessive pied male? I knew he was a male. He just acts like one and has a male budgie personality. I didn't know that Zoey (mother) is split for recessive pied too? (Not exactly sure what the difference is between recessive pied and dominant pied as well as what is split for recessive pied?) What about the baby green mutation? What kind of pied is he/she? (I think the green one is a female) What do you guys think?
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Your babies are gorgeous.

White one is a gorgeous recessive pied. I think for him to be white mum would also have to have been split for blue.

The green is a a very pretty normal, possibly with a dark factor, and split for blue. I think you will find the spot disappears as she ages as she is not displaying any other indications of being a pied.
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Dominant pied will ALWAYS be visible, because it is dominant over other mutations. So they can't be split (hiding a gene for it) if hey have the gene you will be able to see it. Recessive pied is overruled by other mutations, so they need to have TWO recessive genes, one from each parent, to show it. That is how you know that both your rids are split for recessive pied. (Your dad is still also dominant pied, they sound similar but are different genes so a bird can have both.)
Your recessive pied will not get light rings in his eyes, or a blue cere. He will always look like a baby (which is one reason I love them.)
Hope this helps a bit.
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