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Old 11-22-2013, 11:47 PM
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Hi, I was wondering what my budgie is. I got him from a pet store almost three years ago, and I believe he Is a recessive pied, but I heard the recessive ones had dark eyes. My bird has one eye that is dark and the other eye has a light iris. thx!
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Old 11-23-2013, 12:34 AM
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I would not have said recessive pied. Maybe dark eyed clear? I admit the bars around the eyes are confusing me

I will wait to hear what the more experienced folks have to say

Must say both your birds a gorgeous though.
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Sorry about that, I thought he was recessive pied because he has color on his rump, and he has one spot on his belly that is really hard to see on the photos.
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dominant on the left and right there both dominant
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Well that will teach me not to look at a pic closely enough. I can now see the colour on the rump you are talking about, though still can't see the colour on the belly. He could be a double factor dom pied if you are seeing iris rings, or recessive pied if not, could even be spit but I can't remember how it works. Sorry not much help really
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I suggest a mix of both. A bird can be both and one clear and one white iris seems to be a good sign that this is the case. Cool bird!
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Cara is right. Often when you pair a Recessive Pied and a Dominant Pied you can get a baby that only has one iris ring. This is something that is very easy to do as the name suggests with the Recessive Pied it is a recessive gene and the bird can look just like a normal variety but is carrying the pied gene recessively, so you could pair two normal looking birds and get pied babies. With the Dominant Pied one parent has to be visually Pied and one normal, over the breeding life of the birds you will get 50% Pied and 50% normal offspring.

Pied markings are usually individual to each bird, some having only small areas of pied markings and others nearly 100% base colour, if that makes sense. So with a green bird the bird may be nearly totally yellow with only a small area of green and with a blue bird nearly totally white with only a small area of blue. One of the few variations of this is the Austalian Dominant or Banded Pied. This bird looks totally normal except for a band of base colour (white or yellow) across the abdomen. This lovely bird was nearly lost as a variety, but luckily some breeders here in Australia are now bringing the variety back.
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Thank you! I don't know a lot about budgie mutations, so this is good to know!
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Dual mutations like this can often be confusing, even experienced show breeders can come unstuck with a variety like this.
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One of the few variations of this is the Austalian Dominant or Banded Pied. This bird looks totally normal except for a band of base colour (white or yellow) across the abdomen. This lovely bird was nearly lost as a variety, but luckily some breeders here in Australia are now bringing the variety back.
Sorry to hijack the thread but is Yin Yang a Banded Pied, Kate?

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I've been trying to figure out what sort of pied she is and was actually about to ask if anyone knew!
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