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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Old 11-30-2013, 08:40 PM
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I'm pretty new to genetics, I've been doing a lot of reading and have tentatively identified my breeding pair, but would like your opinion to see if I'm on the right track. There are a lot of mutations in there!!!

Male: Yellow Face Type 2 sky blue single factor spangled opaline?
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Female: Yellow Face Type 2 (cobalt blue?) single factor spangle - her colour after her first moult changed from a violet type colour to muddy olive blending into the violet - the flash makes her colour look a brighter blue than it is. She also has dark eyes.
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I'd also like to ask your opinion on the bubs.
Baby 1 has some blue pins showing on her wings so I'm assuming she's a Yellow face sky blue opaline like dad and therefore female?
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Baby 2 and 3 - Baby 2 has mostly grey down and no sign of a yellow face. I can't tell much else so feel free to input.
Baby 3 is a little young yet but appears to have plum coloured eyes - they only opened a couple days ago which is when I noticed they don't look the same as the others. Where did this come from?!
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Thank you for your help!!!

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Looks to me like you have the parents' mutations correct. You can expect normals, SF spangles, DF spangles, opaline, and YF with base colors of sky blue and cobalt. How old is mom? She doesn't look, in the photos, to be old enough for breeding. I can see a light iris ring in the second photo.
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If the baby's eyes are red, it's a female albino. I think cinnamon babies have plum colored eyes. If it turns out cinnamon, it's also a female.
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Thanks for your reply Erin. I'm glad I was on the right track. A couple extra days has confirmed the oldest chick is definitely a female -YF II sky blue opaline, I think second chick a normal cobalt blue, 3rd chick up in the air but has white down so maybe another opaline?. Don't know if I'm imagining the plum eyes or not.

As for mum, she is the same age as Dad - 12 months old, she does look younger than him doesn't she, but I've had her 12 month now, since she was a fledgling. She has had dark eyes all along. I know she is still young for breeding, but I'm afraid initially it was unintentional.

She started laying very determinedly at 9 months, and when I didn't give her a nest box she laid eggs on the floor of the cage and attempted to sit on them. I had planned merely on pet budgies, and naively didn't realise that in a house cage inside - in my kitchen no less and with no nesting box, they would still breed!!! I know, newbie. Anyhow, needless to say first batch was not successful ( I hadn't been feeding anything but seed and she had no box) and although she hatched one chick, she was too inexperienced to feed it, as was I! So this time round I recognised the nesting signs in advance (duh! shredded newspaper flying everywhere) and decided to let her have a proper go. Dad also being inexperienced has not been feeding Olive (mum) so I have been giving her fresh egg and biscuit twice a day inside the nest box to keep up her condition and assist her with feeding the chicks. She has been a very good mum this time round, and the 3 chicks are growing well. So all in all it hasn't been ideal circumstances, and I do plan to separate them in future, as I have no idea of their lineage and they may even be related, as they came from the same outdoor aviary and are the same age

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