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A Budgie breeder advertised baby budgies for sale yesterday and she said she had 2 blue lacewings. I emailed her asking for pictures and this is what she sent me.. they look like opaline/spangles to me, am I wrong? I just wanted to make sure before I reply to her..
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No they are not Lacewings they are Opalines except for the last one that looks to be a Greywing. Lacewings are a combination of Albino or Lutino and Cinnamon. The only colours you get with Lacewings is White and Yellow with a hint of Cinnamon markings on the wings mainly.

Check out Lindseys site at this link for Lacewings.

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I wasn't sure if that last one was a greywing or a spangle because it's so blurry.

Thanks for replying Kate, I didn't want to be horribly rude and say sorry those aren't lacewings and be wrong.
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I explained to her what lacewings were and she actually has 2 that are possible lacewings! But adults and both female. The white one appears to have markings and cheek patches but the picture isn't great. The yellow, is it a lacewing or a fallow?
They both have red eyes.


She asked me a bunch of questions and I'm trying to answer them, I'll try to get her to join the forum but in the mean time.

What would it take to get lacewing babies? The genetics calc said they're recessive but I thought lacewing was sex-linked? In which case she'd need to breed the split for lacewing male babies right?
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I was never into breeding Lacewings so I really haven't studied the breeding or genetics of them. But I knew the first pictures were not Lacewings from looking at them at shows. With the second lot the white one looks to be Lacewing but I am doubtful of the yellow one. The markings are too dark for a Lacewing, could be a Fallow but I never studied much on them either.

Albino, Lutino and Cinnamon are all Sex Linked mutations. The only Sex Linked birds I have ever bred in budgies have been the Cinnamon and Opaline. Lindsey would be the best one to ask about Lacewings. Sorry I can't help any further than this.
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The white one looks albino to me and not lacewing. the yellow one is also not lacewing.

Lacewing is sex linked.
If you breed a visual lacewing cock to a normal hen you only get visual hens but all cocks will be split lacewing.

A split cock to a normal hen gives you lacewing hens and 50% of the cocks will also be split.

You must have a visual hen paired to a split cock or a visual cock to produce male lacewings.

I hope that makes it easy to understand
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Thanks so much Kate and Amelia! I agree the white looks albino and the yellow, well if she has red eyes that rules out just being a cinnamon pied or something. She's invited me around to see her birds and chat, I'll get a closer look then. She's a colony breeder but literally everyone around here is that I've met so far. I'm just happy to meet another Budgie fanatic
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Allie there is a branch of The Budgerigar Society of NSW in Canberra. Here is the link to them.

https://www.budgerigar.com.au/canberra/canindex.htm
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Allie there is a branch of The Budgerigar Society of NSW in Canberra. Here is the link to them.

https://www.budgerigar.com.au/canberra/canindex.htm
I thought the Budgerigar Society was only for show budgies?
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