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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Old 12-31-2013, 10:46 PM
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I thought maybe a poorly marked saddleback? I'm not sure. His sister is just like him but cinnamon. Neither are greywings as their spots are full-coloured (black for him, warm brown for her). His other brothers are a light green and a cobalt SF dark spangle. Parents reportedly spangle (some dark factor, not sure what) and a light green, so I'm 90% the green male is split for blue (of course, I can't verify previous owner's statement as the birds were delivered to me). The parents have also thrown spangles (violet, cobalt).


Uncertain male on left, compared with an olive on the right. Note the wing tip differences. You can see his markings start off black then end in greyish-brown. I'm sure he's split opaline too. What mutation is this?


His sister - deep full-marked spots, her wingtips do the same.


Their brother, has normal black wing tips.

The lady I bought them from bred them herself in her garden aviary, so she probably wasn't aware what genetics were mixing (just two pretty budgies breeding), which is fine, but I'm interested in genetics so I like to know. Ideas?

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Old 01-02-2014, 04:59 AM
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It sure is an interesting and gorgeous wee budgie. The wing colouring reminds me of pictures I have seen of Texas Clear Bodies. If it was a TCB it would have a diffused body colour too, so it isn't that. Maybe just a dilution of some sort?

Will be interesting to hear from one of our mutation experts. Hopefully one will pop by soon
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wow, he is pretty!

Looks like a melanistic sf Spangle!
(the blue bird on the first picture)

not sure how rare that is though, havent read much about them.

He is a keeper
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I found a similar phenomenon in my TCB, Birch. Some of his markings are black (or maybe very dark brown?), others are brown and he has light brown wing tips. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with him being a Texas Clearbody or something else. Wish I could be of more help but I'm baffled too.
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He just looks like he has lighter coloring for a normal than what you would aim for as far as the standards go to me Some birds will have less pigment than they should leaving more of a brown instead of black, especially if they have greywing or cinnamon background.

If he was a molted out melenistic spangle he would have white main tail feathers, which he does not have. If he were a TCB he would have a very diluted body as was mentioned and other TCB features. The pale grizzled grey wing tips is standard for the TCB
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silly me, thinking he looked like m.spangle.
didnt notice the tail feathers.
but he is beautiful
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silly me, thinking he looked like m.spangle.
didnt notice the tail feathers.
but he is beautiful
It was not silly! There are so many mutations and variations within them it can make your head spin
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Not sure but they sure are stunning!
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It was not silly! There are so many mutations and variations within them it can make your head spin

Hi, thank you, Lindsey
yeah you are right, it does make you head spin!
But I love learning all the mutations; budgie mutation are so many and so different
than other mutations I have learn about. Confusing.. but fun
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shes talking aboout the blue lines through the black lines on the wings if you look close you can see the color going through thmeem
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