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Default How can I tell Golden-faced from yellow-faced type 2nd ???

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I had been researching my yellow-faced blue budgies, by colour details. I did not have golden-faced budgies, but I have yellow-faced blue budgies in both types and factors.

I have problem: How can I tell Golden-faced blue budgie from yellow-faced type 2nd blue budgie, by head & plumage details ???

In my study, the double factor yellow-faced type 2nd have either creamy or white cheek and lore, while single factor yellow-faced type 2nd have yellow cheeks and lores.

Two last photoes: left bird is double factor yellow-faced type 2nd skyblue normal spangle, the right bird is single factor yellow-faced type 2nd skyblue normal spangle.
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type 2 fades through the body for example the first budgie on the 3rd picture has yellow through out its body and type 1 is only on the face (thats just how i think of it as other people may think different )
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From what I've seen with my own budgies, single factor goldenface will make the bird look almost like it's a green series budgie. Telling double factor goldenface from yellowface II might be a little trickier.

Here's a pic of my yellowface type I with my single factor goldenface (on the far right) for comparison.



and he's a link to a fellow member's web pages with some good information

https://cutelittlebirdiesaviary.weebl...oldenface.html
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See my photoes of my budgies whose I correctly labelled.

I really do not know how to tell a Golden-faced from yellow-faced type 2nd.

None of my budgies had golden faces or orangish-yellow faces.
All my budgies had faces from creamy to canary yellow.

Think about at petshop if you look at 12 single factor yellow-faced type 2nd skyblue normal budgies and you want a golden-faced skyblue normal budgie, but you look at 12 budgies and say "How can I tell a golden-faced from yellow-faced type 2nd ???"
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I don't think young woman cutelittlebirdiesaviary had researched or not researched about how to tell Golden-faced from yellow-faced type 2nd.

See my photoes of my budgies whose I correctly labelled.

I really do not know how to tell a Golden-faced from yellow-faced type 2nd.

None of my budgies had golden faces or orangish-yellow faces.
All my budgies had faces from creamy to canary yellow.

Think about at petshop if you look at 12 single factor yellow-faced type 2nd skyblue normal budgies and you want a golden-faced skyblue normal budgie, but you look at 12 budgies and say "How can I tell a golden-faced from yellow-faced type 2nd ???"
I think you might be just a TAD presumptuous in saying that Lindsay has not researched her stuff - she probably knows more than most of us ever will. Further, it would behoove you to probably private message her with any questions you might have, instead of making an ill-formed statement on an open Forum that she has not researched her subject! Just because *you* don't know how to tell the difference does not mean she doesn't know.

In fact, after she mentioned what my birds mutation was, I hit my books and found the GOLDEN FACE mutation she spoke of, but you seem to know most things, so I won't insult you further with the title of the book, or any further knowledge since you already know the difference.

What I will say is that your budgies are just stunning. Ciao!
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I sent PM to Cutelittlebirdies as I do not know how to tell diffenance between golden-face and yellow-faced type 2nd, by plumage and head details.

Hopefully Cutelittlebirdies would of much help about this.
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Which the photoes of Golden-faced blue budgies ???

first photo: yellow-faced type 2nd skyblue budgies in both double & single factors.

2nd photo: Dark yellow face ...Golden-faced blue budgies ???

3rd photo: Golden face ...Golden-faced blue budgies ???

4th photo: Orange face ...Golden-faced blue budgies ???

Were body colours of Golden-faced blue budgies same as yellow-faced type 2nd blue budgies ???

I need help as I still am researching my yellow-faced blue budgies.
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My understanding is that a goldenface has a deeper buttercup yellow than the Yellowface. From your colouring I would say probably closer to pic 2 & 3.

Here is an article that I think describes it well, sorry no pics

https://www.bestofbreeds.net/al-nasser/article12.htm

Barrie Shutt a well known UK breeder has some pics of goldenface budgies on his site. You can see he describes them as a a deeper yellow than the normal Yellowface.

https://www.officialbarrieshuttbudger...smutations.htm

I hope that helps in your identification.
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Why have you photo-shopped the same budgie pictures?
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milipidi,
thanks, but when I found photoes of Barrie Shutt, the golden-faced were just yellow-faced type 2nd not golden-faced, head colours too pale.

AnimalKaperz,
I had to photoshop my three copies, to see if members help me by point which birds are goldenfaces.
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