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Old 02-19-2014, 11:57 AM
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Nobody panic ... but I found a new pet shop two towns away Lovely and clean and nice staff.

Anyhow here's my questions:

Rainbow budgie: Yellow face II, I'm fairly certain. He had a very blue cere, no clear cap of feathers on his head, faint bars to just about his cere. Do rainbows have deep blue ceres as youngsters?

All white budgie: Gorgeous baby! Big black eyes you could swim in (gasp). His cere was very pink so I assume boy - no tan, no white, just lovely sweet pink. So boy, likely? Also he had the faintest blue on his cheeks - you'd miss it if you weren't standing there swooning over him What would you call that mutation? She said he only came in last week.

I should've taken pictures. I came home without one but they were so clean and happy and healthy I am VERY tempted to go back. The white was was happily chatting away to himself, the rainbow was singing in between beak fulls of food and preening one of his buddies.

I might just. Might! ... I am prepared to keep working with Fred individually, and working with a new one as well. I have a quarantine cage etc. But I calmly came home to think about it.

They were the nicest looking pet shop birds I have ever seen in this area.

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Old 02-19-2014, 12:39 PM
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and why didn't you take pictures?!

They do indeed both sound like boys, and very beautiful ones!

Keep us updated, but if you have the time to tame them both, and the space... then why not!

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Old 02-19-2014, 12:41 PM
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To be a rainbow you need 4 things: yellow face, blue series, clear wing and opaline. The white DEC -dark eyed clear- is a bit hard to tell the sex because the cere on the cock and hen are often very close. I know an expert who showed 2 birds under the wrong sex for 2 years before it was discovered. Both sound pretty and while in restricted time they birds will be able to hear and call to each other which can help Fred.

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Is it normal for a young rainbow to have such a deep blue cere tho? I'm pretty sure he was very young but not totally. He didn't have that clear patch on his head.

The white one with the faint blue on the cheeks really really caught my eye. He was so happy sitting there nattering all to himself. Why would he have that faint blue on him?

Sigh.
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Uh-oh... budgie addiction is brewing! hahaha

Let us know what you decide.

Oh, and sorry, but I'm about as useful on budgie mutations as a pair of concrete socks, but I'll support your addiction!
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Uh-oh... budgie addiction is brewing! hahaha

Let us know what you decide.

Oh, and sorry, but I'm about as useful on budgie mutations as a pair of concrete socks, but I'll support your addiction!
I just want to get a bit more information behind me before I decide anything, so I'm hoping someone will come along with some more info for me.

Concrete socks My favourites are: about as useful as t!ts on a bull. Or as useful as a chocolate fireguard lol Both of which apply to me in a multitude of situations, including budgie mutations and ages!
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You want to see a beautiful white budgie ? Go to the breeding section, and under mutations and genetics, go to page four and look at amberwydell post. That is one knockout DF Spangle and you can see hints of blue in him. I believe they start out as babies with purple, and turn to blue as adult males. I believe DEC Males stay pink for good. I am also thinking that the spangles get an Iris ring and DEC do not....or vice versa...Lindsey or someone could tell you for sure....or look at her sight....
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You want to see a beautiful white budgie ? Go to the breeding section, and under mutations and genetics, go to page four and look at amberwydell post. That is one knockout DF Spangle and you can see hints of blue in him. I believe they start out as babies with purple, and turn to blue as adult males. I believe DEC Males stay pink for good. I am also thinking that the spangles get an Iris ring and DEC do not....or vice versa...Lindsey or someone could tell you for sure....or look at her sight....
Oh!!! I think that's what he is

I just couldn't take my eyes off him and that faint, faint blue ...

Oh dear!
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Dark eyed clears do not get the iris ring, I've got a yellow one myself, they keep they're baby eyes forever.
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Those baby eyes ... I've not yet had a budgie with baby eyes. They're so alluring!

If the white is, in fact, a white based double factor spangle ... what to look for on the cere in regards to sex? His cere was very evenly pink.

Can anyone give me some input on rainbows or their close variations having a deep blue cere at a young age?
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