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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Old 04-04-2014, 01:15 PM
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Hi all,

It's been a while since I posted, but I do love just reading through the forum on a daily basis.

I have a breeding pair of blues (Gertie & Gunther) and they've given me a good brood of beautiful blue pieds and also a plain blue (pics attached). This brood however, they've also thrown me an albino! (you should be able to see him in the pic).

I'd like to keep the albino (interim named Whitey!) and breed with him, but I was wondering what colour to best pair him with. Obviously he is a mutation and I've got no idea what the history is of Gertie & Gunther, I bought them as pets, not as pedigree breeding birds.

However, Whitey gives me an opportunity to "experiment" a bit with colourings and I wondered if anyone had any ideas on what I could pair him with.

Just something to bear in mind - he's only just popped out the nestbox yesterday so I have plenty of time, and I'm also not sure what sex he is yet. His cere shows very faintly blue, but I'm not going to b 100% for a couple of weeks yet at least!

Well, I appreciate any opinions and look forward to being a part of TB for many years!

Thanks all,
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:24 PM
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Hi there,
Since you mentioned Whitey's parents are both blue budgies, then Whitey is most definitely a girl. The Ino gene is sex linked and passed from the father. For an albino or lutino to be male, the mother must necessarily be a visual Ino budgie and the father to be at least split to Ino.
If I were in your shoes, and since you have plenty of white based, blue budgies, I would pair your Whitey with a yellow based green budgie. You can choose a any green budgie boy of your liking. Good luck with your Whitey and her weaning as well!
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I personally have always wanted to pair a lutino with an albino.
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Aluz has it right. You would pair up this albino hen the same way you would pair up any of the other pied babies because under that mask of white feathers, that's essentially what she is. She would pass on the blue pied genes to her chicks and the boys would be split for ino (as your cock must have been). A fact they would hide unless they were to be bred too. However if you were to find another albino or lutino cock or one you were sure was split for ino, then you'd get some ino babies from her Goodluck!
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Aluz has it right. You would pair up this albino hen the same way you would pair up any of the other pied babies because under that mask of white feathers, that's essentially what she is. She would pass on the blue pied genes to her chicks and the boys would be split for ino (as your cock must have been). A fact they would hide unless they were to be bred too. However if you were to find another albino or lutino cock or one you were sure was split for ino, then you'd get some ino babies from her Goodluck!
Can two albinos have anything other than albino? Would lutino and albino produce 50 50 lutino albino or other possibilities as well?
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Can two albinos have anything other than albino? Would lutino and albino produce 50 50 lutino albino or other possibilities as well?
As far as I know, pairing 2 ino would only result in ino chicks. Pairing a lutino with an albino would be the same as pairing any green bird with a blue. You'd only get lutinos unless the lutino was split for blue.
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This albino is a hen so the best mating for me is a dark green split blue split Ino.This Ino could also be masking plain blue as there was one produced in the clutch.You would get light green ..dark green...blue ..cobalt...Lutino and Albino all males being split Ino.with the possibility of pied if that is what is actually what she is masking.My thoughts.
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Hi all,

Thanks so much for your advice. I have been reading a bit and having a think.

I was wondering about breeding my new lady with something a bit rarer like a Lacewing or Cinnamon. However, I am very tempted to try her with a standard green, a really bright one.

Can I assume she would carry a recessive pied gene? Her mother has had straight blues and pied blues.

I understand that any chicks Whitey may have would be:
Males 50% normal/INO
Females - Normal

So I would never have the chance to have another full INO chick from Whitey. However, her mother (Gertie) may yet surprise me!

This reading is really getting me interested in all the colours/mutations. I've never really picked a mate for one of my birds, they've always been rescues or landed on my doorstep somehow! I'd like to make the most of this opportunity, as I don't have a great deal of room and breeding pairs at most will be three, probably two.

TB has always been a great place to bounce ideas off and learn new things and I'm really on a learning curve here! Thanks so much to all of you lovely people :-)
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