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Old 04-30-2014, 11:01 AM
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Hi all! I have two boys that I'm not exactly sure on and would love some help.

First is Gimli. He came from a breeder and she called him a "light blue greywing spangle." I'm having trouble figuring out the difference in greywing and spangle, just spangle and just greywing. Also wondering about his body color, as it seems diluted some how. That's Gimli's best buddy, Pippin, hanging out behind him.

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Second is my new baby, Celedore. That's his girlfriend, Galadriel, behind him. In this case I'm pretty sure he's a Light Green, DF Dominent Pied, but would love some reinforcement on that. Thanks in advance!!

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Old 04-30-2014, 08:41 PM
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The first does look like a sky blue greywing spangle. Greywings have diluted body colour and spangle refers to the thin lines on his wings.

The second looks like it could be a single factor dom pied instead of double factor, it's hard to tell from the front only, you'd need to provide a picture of the back too.
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Thanks so much Allie! I really appreciate it. I'll try to get a couple better pictures of Celedore tomorrow!
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Sorry, it took me a little longer than expected, but I have new pictures showing Celedore from the back. Poor guy was given a heck of a chop job on his wings.

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Thanks in advance for any help! I really appreciate it.

ETA: And just to be sure, he is a young male and that's a young, but not quite as young normal green female behind him, correct?

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Sorry, it took me a little longer than expected, but I have new pictures showing Celedore from the back. Poor guy was given a heck of a chop job on his wings.

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Thanks in advance for any help! I really appreciate it.

ETA: And just to be sure, he is a young male and that's a young, but not quite as young normal green female behind him, correct?
Thanks for the new pictures, I think he is single factor dom. pied rather than double factor. Even though he's pied, I think he will gain some royal blue on his cere and lose the baby bars. Your age estimation of the hen being a bit older seems right Good luck with them both! They are a couple of cuties
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Thank you very much Allie! I really appreciate it. Guess I'll have tho do a little more research on single vs double dominant pieds.
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