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Old 05-02-2014, 02:57 AM
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Exclamation Helicopter Luigi?

For those who don't know, this is Mona and Carioca's son, Luigi. He turned 4 months old a few days ago, on April 27th.
He started to slowly moult a few weeks ago and has been doing great, but over a week ago I noticed something odd. His shoulder feathers on one side don't look quite right... These are new feathers he got from the moult and they seem to have grown in a strange looking clump.
I noticed this on April 24th and immediately checked to see if the feathers were damaged and to my surprise they were all intact despite their weird shape. I know for a fact he didn't have any night frights (never had one) and he didn't get stuck in a toy while playing.
I know there are Japanese helicopter budgies out there, but I can't comprehend how he would be one and really hope this is just one freak thing that will go away at least on his next moult, if not sooner. I like my budgies with smooth wing feathers.

Anyway, I took these pictures on the day I noticed the oddly placed feathers, on April 24th, 2014.






You can see in this pic, he has two tones of colour on his tummy area (due to moult)


I thought I would let a week pass to see if he kept the strange feathering and after two thorough baths he took, the normal amounts of daily preening, playing and flying around with flock brother Khaleesi, Luigi still has the strange feathers.
By the way, his flight hasn't been affected in any way, Luigi is one of my best flyers among the budgie flock.

These pictures I took yesterday, May 1st for comparison.




You can see the difference a week after, he has gotten a throat spot.


I'd like to know your opinions on this. There is no way Luigi is part helicopter, right? And if he is not, how did this happen?

Thank you in advance for any replies and I apologize for the very long post. Just wanted to give info that could be pertaining to the subject or could help shed some light.

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Old 05-02-2014, 03:50 AM
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Someone in my FB breeders group asked a similar question recently and they were told that it was probably just a feather disturbance that would moult out with the next moult.

It will be interesting to see if Luigi keeps his helicopter feathers!
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Interesting. It makes him a little more unique. Not such a bad thing.
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Someone in my FB breeders group asked a similar question recently and they were told that it was probably just a feather disturbance that would moult out with the next moult.

It will be interesting to see if Luigi keeps his helicopter feathers!
Thanks for giving your two cents on the matter, Allie!
I give Luigi and the whole flock a good diet of top quality seeds (sprouting included, of course), egg food (for chicks, breeding pairs and moulting birds) vegetables and some fruit.
Never have I gotten a bird to grow these feathers in my 20+ years of budgie ownership and breeding.
I know my flock has shiny and healthy feathers, so Luigi's odd feathering doesn't come from lack of nutrition.
Time will tell whether he keeps the helicopter feathers or not. I would rather have him lose them. Even though for his whole life he has been integrated in the flock, he still has his own cage for himself, but sooner or later I will get him a mate and I'm kind of afraid he will be picked on by being different...


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Interesting. It makes him a little more unique. Not such a bad thing.
I guess so and he is a very happy and energetic budgie boy, the most enthusiastic of the flock and the odd feathers don't bother him at all.
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I have one that has a crest on his chest. Looks like he is wearing a sweater and it is pushed up around his neck. Your budgies helocopter look looks better than my poor guy . I dont think it will be gone with the molt. They usually stay for ever. It is an interesting look for sure .
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I hope your "Karlson" will keep his propeller after the moult.
Also if this unique feather structure goes to his kids, he is definitely helicopter guy
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I have one that has a crest on his chest. Looks like he is wearing a sweater and it is pushed up around his neck. Your budgies helocopter look looks better than my poor guy . I dont think it will be gone with the molt. They usually stay for ever. It is an interesting look for sure .
Oh well, helicopter or not, he is very much loved and that's what matters the most.

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I hope your "Karlson" will keep his propeller after the moult.
Also if this unique feather structure goes to his kids, he is definitely helicopter guy
We will see, when Luigi comes of age I will definitely let him have offspring.
I just find it strange that he got these odd feathers now. It's not like they developed when he was a growing chick, they just magically appeared during his first baby moult.
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I think it is cute, and remember every type of budgie, helicopter, crested, different colours etc, started with a mutation from normal budgies!
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I love little quirks like this! I don't know the first thing about helicopter budgies (first I've heard of it, but I'm a newbie with budgies), but I sure do hope that he is. He's adorable!!
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I believe that helicopters like cresteds are easily identified from the time the feather follicles start coming in. Since Luigi has just recently developed this I am quite sure it is just a feather quirk rather than a true genetic mutation causing it
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