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I can't seem to identify the mutations of a couple of my budgies. The first is Amelia.





The Second is Arthur



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I think Amelia is a yellowface I combination pied (recessive + dominant). Can't tell if cobalt or mauve from the pics, they're a bit dark.

Arthur is yellowface II sky greywing

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Thanks.. I found out that Amelia is a Double Factor Dominant Pied cream colored. And Arthur is exactly what you said
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Thanks.. I found out that Amelia is a Double Factor Dominant Pied cream colored. And Arthur is exactly what you said
Telling the difference between DF dom pied and combination pied is almost impossible unless you test breed them. From the lack of wing markings it's a better bet that she's combination pied rather than DF dom pied. Cream coloured isn't a type, she is yellowface type I because of the pale shade of yellow.
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Telling the difference between DF dom pied and combination pied is almost impossible unless you test breed them. From the lack of wing markings it's a better bet that she's combination pied rather than DF dom pied. Cream coloured isn't a type, she is yellowface type I because of the pale shade of yellow.
If she is yellowfaced, does that make her a white bird?
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If she is yellowfaced, does that make her a white bird?
White/blue yes. As I said, I can't tell if she's cobalt or mauve because of the lack of light but definitely a blue budgie.
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If she is yellowfaced, does that make her a white bird?
no, the pied gene make her white (white flecked/patches or the whole body, depends how much pied there is) , the yellow face gene make her face yellow (type I) or makes the face yellow and also spread the yellow color through the body (type II)
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no, the pied gene make her white (white flecked/patches or the whole body, depends how much pied there is) , the yellow face gene make her face yellow (type I) or makes the face yellow and also spread the yellow color through the body (type II)
All true but yellowface I will show on a clear/pied birds body as very light cream. If she wasn't pied you wouldn't see it.
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So, basically... I can look forward to 100% Yellow faced, pied, Greywing babies.
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dont quote me on this....but i have a male budgie with the exact same cere colour as amelia, she may be a he..... im not 100% sure though, as mine is a pied too. but may be darker in pics than natural light.

i may be wrong though so dont take my word beautiful birds though
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