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I'm wondering if someone can help me understand my male Yogi's mutation.
So I have a violet spangle (Stella), but I've been told Yogi is a violet fully body greywing.
My question is as you can see in the pics Stella is violet. I see some in Yogi, but he has so much more blue to him so how is it he is still just a violet?
I've read lots on how the violets and that they needs that sky blue colour in them (still trying to get my head around mutations all the info).
Left is Gus photo bombing. Stella is in the middle and Yogi is the right
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Also IF I was to breed them when enough, both breeding condition, and the want to become a pair, etc what would they produce?

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I'm wondering if someone can help me understand my male Yogi's mutation.
So I have a violet spangle (Stella), but I've been told Yogi is a violet fully body greywing.
My question is as you can see in the pics Stella is violet. I see some in Yogi, but he has so much more blue to him so how is it he is still just a violet?
I've read lots on how the violets and that they needs that sky blue colour in them (still trying to get my head around mutations all the info).
Left is Gus photo bombing. Stella is in the middle and Yogi is the right
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Also IF I was to breed them when enough, both breeding condition, and the want to become a pair, etc what would they produce?
There are Double Factor Violets and Single Factor Violets

A DF Violet is very violet... where a SF Violet you can see the violet but it's not as potent. Most of the time the violet coloring will darken the blue.

Violet can happen in any of the Dark factors.

with your pair, you'll get 25% DF Violets, 50% SF Violets and 25% no Violet... ((Unless one of yours is a DF Violet which you can't really tell on pictures very well because the Violet does not photograph well))

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So yogi could possibly be leaning more towards a sf violet which is why you can see more blue in him? And Stella more possibly a sf violet since she is violet?
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So yogi could possibly be leaning more towards a sf violet which is why you can see more blue in him? And Stella more possibly a sf violet since she is violet?
Mutations mutations mutations 😣 haha
Thank you so much for your help!!!!
If she is DF Violet, then your babies will all be Single Factor or Double Factor Violets... You'll know for sure when/if you breed them.
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Hello, just want to put my 5c in this conversation, when I look at your pictures, I see that your gal is Spangle Opaline and your boy is FBC Greywing that's for sure. The rest, is hard to tell what exact color they have, and I think its due to camera's flash, in some pictures I see violet, grey, even mauve and some pictures show simply cobalt and violet coloring
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So best to take some pics without the flash?
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