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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Let's focus on the white hen.

If she is all white -- no body color and no markings -- and has black eyes, then:
1. If she has iris rings, then she is blue series double factor spangle (Spangle (Double Factor) Budgies - ************* Cute Little Birdies Aviary). All her chicks will be spangle.
2. If she has no iris rings, then she is blue series dark-eyed clear (Dark Eyed Clear Budgies - ************* Cute Little Birdies Aviary).

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The male is harder to ascertain. He is sky blue yellowface I (with suffusion) or yellowface II. Due to absence of body color, he could be a variety of mutations. Perhaps combination dominant-recessive pied. Could also be opaline and/or spangle.

Regardless of cock bird's mutations, all chicks will be blue series spangle. I'm not sure whether half or all will be yellowface. I speculate half will be normal and half will be pied. Other mutations, too.
Have to wait for the camera to charge she has no iris and red tint he has no iris and no red tint in his eyes

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Have to wait for the camera to charge she has no iris and red tint he has no iris and no red tint in his eyes
Assuming they're both adults (and so by now, they should have irises), then ...

Hen is blue series dark-eyed clear.
Cock bird is blue series yellowface and probably still combined dominant-recessive pied (plus other mutations) or dominant pied split to recessive pied (plus other mutations). The recessive pied mutation caused lack of iris ring.

The only way to ascertain their mutations more accurately would be to breed them.

I have a couple cock birds (genetic brothers from two different clutches) that look just like him. They are sky blue yellowface I (with suffusion) combined dom-rec pied possibly plus spangle (their mother is sf spangle). Here are three pictures of one of the brothers. Both brothers have one iris ring and purply-pink ceres (a pied trait). The only body color is on their rumps.
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Hen looks like an Albino. I see plum red eyes with iris rings in that first photo!

Cock appears to be a sky blue, recessive pied, sf Yellow Face II with...possibly greywing? I think I can see grey barring on his wings and the side of his face.

I can't really help with outcomes though! Sorry.

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Can I see a better picture of your birds cere's?... Especially hers, something looks wrong on her beak.
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Can I see a better picture of your birds cere's?... Especially hers, something looks wrong on her beak.
Wow your right i took a closer look it looks like the skin from her cere is growning down her beak like the skin follicles in humans .Wow it looked just like she was in her cycle the whole time i had one bird with scaly face awhile back so im treating her with that and shes in qt being treated for scaly face even know it does not look like it its just for safety
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Wow your right i took a closer look it looks like the skin from her cere is growning down her beak like the skin follicles in humans .Wow it looked just like she was in her cycle the whole time i had one bird with scaly face awhile back so im treating her with that and shes in qt being treated for scaly face even know it does not look like it its just for safety
Cool.. that's what I was afraid it could be.. but I can't see it clearly enough to say one way or the other. You might consider treating him as well if you had one that was with them before.. and give your cage a really good cleaning.
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yup thats whats going to happen he seems to be fine i took a look at his beak and feet he was not with her long maybe a day but i will be cleaning everything just in case .
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