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Old 12-24-2014, 07:51 AM
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Hi all

I have utterly fallen in love with Albinos. My BF and I were in a pet store the other day and they had large aviary filled with only albino budgies. Probably around 30 or so. It was stunning!

Unfortunately I believe they were all female, I would love to go back and check them out sometime, we did not have enough time for me to stay and be sure.

So now that I am hooked on albinos, I would love to hear how you would go about breeding them. I am aware that you need a male to be carrier at least to get albino male young.

But what if you only had a female albino, and had to use a normal male. Which colors would you use, any special mutations or anything, to end up with albino male babies.

Looking forward to hear from you!

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Old 12-24-2014, 08:10 AM
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Albino is a sex linked gene. To get an albino male the parents have to be either a male split for albino or a visual albino and the female has to be albino. Females cannot be split for a sex linked gene, to pass it on they must be visual.

This is the normal inheritance of the ino gene (applies for both lutino and albino.

Ino x Ino = 100% Ino chicks

Ino cock x Normal hen =

-50% Normal/Ino cocks
-50% Ino hens


Normal cock x Ino hen =

-50% Normal/Ino cocks
-50% Normal hens


Normal/Ino cock x Normal hen =

-25% Normal cocks
-25% Normal/Ino cocks
-25% Ino hens
-25% Normal hens
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Thanks, I already know this. I should have specified it clearer in my post - A female ino is a given of course.

I am more interested in how anyone would go about breeding for albino male offspring, which kind of normal mutations would different people use, and how many pairs would be needed to avoid inbreeding an so on. How many generations it would take.
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Hello, if you don't have or don't know if your male is split, its basically "try and see" exercise. What you can do is the following: buy two pairs, where both of the hens are albino and cocks unknown, breed them, after that you can breed off-springs cocks which would be splits to albino female that you already have from another pair, that way you can get albino chicks.
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Thanks, I already know this. I should have specified it clearer in my post - A female ino is a given of course.

I am more interested in how anyone would go about breeding for albino male offspring, which kind of normal mutations would different people use, and how many pairs would be needed to avoid inbreeding an so on. How many generations it would take.
Well, if all the birds in there are related, then you'd want to look elsewhere for your male anyway. You never know about pet stores and relations with one another.

I'd also suggest that Dark Eyed Clears would be another choice. They look just like an Albino except they have black eyes instead of red. ((Albinos potentially have a problem with sunlight))

But if you want to breed Albino's then you'd get your 2 female albino's and 2 non albino males. Since a male can be split albino, you'd end up with either some albino females or none at all. But, all the male offspring would be split to albino. Then you just mate the male offspring to an unrelated female albino. Then you'll get 50% normal 50% albino. You take a Male Albino from this pair and mate with a Female Albino and you'll have 100% Albino.

So 3 generations to get 100% albinos.
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If there are no Albino male buy two females and breed them with any available male you got or like males mutation do not matter.

Breeders use Normal Grey to have suffusion free Albino.

Every male chick produced from these females will be split to Albino. When these chicks become one year old male breed male chick from female#1 with female#2 and male chick from female#2 with female#1. Both pair will produce male Albino.

This is the proper way to breed Albino male if you donít find one and have only females.
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If there are no Albino male buy two females and breed them with any available male you got or like males mutation do not matter.

Breeders use Normal Grey to have suffusion free Albino.

Every male chick produced from these females will be split to Albino. When these chicks become one year old male breed male chick from female#1 with female#2 and male chick from female#2 with female#1. Both pair will produce male Albino.

This is the proper way to breed Albino male if you donít find one and have only females.
Correction... They both have a 50% chance of producing a male albino. And, this only works if Female #1 and Female #2 are not related. If sisters, you might as well breed back to the mother.
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Correction... They both have a 50% chance of producing a male albino. And, this only works if Female #1 and Female #2 are not related. If sisters, you might as well breed back to the mother.

She is not asking about the %. I am telling the way to breed.

Two sisters with two different males will not be inbreeding.

Breeders do pair Aunt x nephew to produces their own bloodline.
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Nice to see you breeder's all weighing in on this...excellent discussion...
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Nice to see you breeder's all weighing in on this...excellent discussion...
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