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bostobudgies 01-17-2015 04:51 PM

What color babies will they make?
 
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Hello, here is a pic of my two birds. I think they are dark green and mauve. They aren't ready to breed yet (too young) but I was curious as to what the genetic probability would be for their offspring. All green? Any chance some blue?

SusanBudgies 01-17-2015 06:54 PM

I think he's mauve normal and she's olive green violet normal.

If so, then half their chicks will be olive green normal split to blue and half will be olive green violet split to blue.

If the hen is split to blue, then you could get some mauve or mauve violet chicks.

They're a lovely pair! :)

tonic 01-17-2015 07:49 PM

The blue bird doesn't have black tail feathers does it? I am wondering if it is a grey....

bostobudgies 01-18-2015 10:03 AM

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I am not sure if I'd call the tail feathers extremely dark blue or a lighter black. I've atttached a photo to try to show the color as best I could. Thanks for everyone's help!

SusanBudgies 01-18-2015 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tonic (Post 2696193)
The blue bird doesn't have black tail feathers does it? I am wondering if it is a grey....

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Originally Posted by bostobudgies (Post 2697497)
I am not sure if I'd call the tail feathers extremely dark blue or a lighter black. I've atttached a photo to try to show the color as best I could. Thanks for everyone's help!

I think Toni is on to something. His tail feather does look black to me. Toni, do you think he's grey rather than mauve?

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If he's grey, the chicks will be combinations of green violet, green violet grey and green-grey. All normals and all split to blue.

Jonah 01-18-2015 09:46 PM

I lack any mutation expertise. He look's very much like my violet factor mauve Hen, whose tail feather's give a pretty black appearance...:)

tonic 01-20-2015 12:28 AM

I would say Grey from the photos rather than Mauve :)

bostobudgies 01-24-2015 09:53 AM

Sorry, two more quick questions: what is violet green normal mean? Is it that they have a violet factor or just that her cheek parches are violet? My last question: besides color, there is a chance these guys might produce a pied or other type of recessive mutation correct?

Reese 01-24-2015 10:07 AM

Violet green is a green series budgie with a violet factor. Violet factors work as additives onto a budgies main body color, thus making them darker in color. On a green series bird it causes their body color to be a shade darker with an faint overcast hue of blue, mostly around the rump and vent.

It is possible for you to get a few surprises if you do not know what each parent bird is split for. The only thing is, with recessive mutations, each normal parent bird has to have a single copy of the same gene for you to have a small chance of it showing up in chicks.

For example, mom must be split for recessive pied and dad must be split for recessive pied in order for you to have a chance at a recessive pied chick.
Same goes for other recessive mutations.

buddyboy101 01-24-2015 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Reese (Post 2710737)
For example, mom must be split for recessive pied and dad must be split for recessive pied in order for you to have a chance at a recessive pied chick.
Same goes for other recessive mutations.

From two normal looking birds I got 6 pied chicks! so it is possible if they are both hiding the pied genes


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