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Old 01-25-2015, 01:29 AM
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These have always been my favourite mutations but the clutches we've had recently have confused me about the lines between the 4 types.

The pair I'm mainly talking about is Opal and Tyrian. Opal (hen) I assumed to be YF II sky violet opaline greywing and Tyrian is a violet cobalt clearwing. Apologies for the bad pic of Ty.

Opal recently



Opal as Juvenile



Tyrian - Looks more violet in real life but my bathroom is blue, makes everything look bluer and my phone camera *****.



Opal's last pairing was to a light green clearwing cock and these are the babies they produced. All appearing to be clearwings/fbc greywings - not as nicely marked as their father (left).



These are the 3 oldest of their current clutch - Opal was in the hen's cage for a month (at least) before pairing so no question of paternity.

One appears to be a YF violet cobalt clearwing/fbc greywing
The other 2 look like YF sky greywings, one more yellow than the other - but am I right to think that greywings from this pairing are impossible? The only possibilities I had counted on was FBC greywings, clearwings or dilutes, assuming both are also split for dilute.

Are the 2 that look like greywings, darkly marked dilutes then? Does that mean Opal is a dilute herself?











Here are all my feathered babies of the 4 types for comparison

1, 2 and 3 are Opal and Tyrian's

4 and 5 are from violet light green opaline fbc greywing split YF hen and violet sky fbc greywing cock - Assuming both are YF violet sky fbc greywings.

6 is a sky clearwing dominant pied and 7 is a sky dilute dominant pied from YF sky opaline dominant pied split dilute hen and sky clearwing split dilute cock - These are marked exactly how I would expect dilutes and clearwings to look!






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Old 01-25-2015, 04:27 AM
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Oh so tricky. I find it tricky enough to pick the Clearwing, Greywing, FB Greywing in adults, I wouldn't be confident with such youngsters.
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I thought I had a fairly thorough understanding of them but this has thrown a spanner in the works ?
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I'm not good at discerning among the three mutations, but I must say your flock is lovely!
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