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Old 01-31-2015, 01:12 AM
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Hey all!

Bub has been a mystery to me. I don't know why, but a lot of people I've asked don't seem to know what he is! His parents were both normal and I bred him myself. I usually call all of my babies bubs but Bub just stuck for him, in case anybody was wondering

I bred him about 2 years ago and I don't have any full shots off his back, sorry! I have a chick photo I can give you as well as some more recent ones

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And here's a chick pic



Any help is appreciated!

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I think he's light green-grey normal.

He's lovely!
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Do you have any pictures of his parents or siblings? that could help determine what he is.
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His parents were both definitely normals but I haven't a clue what their splits were as they were a pair that I had bought it. I do however have photos of his siblings

Thank you Susan!

In the clutch there were 3 birds. 2 dark greens and 2 like Bub (including Bub). The other was even lighter!







I hope that helps a little bit!
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I found a cruddy phone photo of his back

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I think hes a Greygreen Texas Clearbody, if so the markings will be almost normal black at his head and fade to grey by the flights and his body colour will be paler than normal.

There are photos of Texas Clearbodies here: https://www.pinterest.com/montiga/ino-budgies/
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He has distinctive head bars but the further down you get the lighter he gets. He also has a dark tail, does that make any difference? And his cheek patches, they're not very deep but they're very vivid. I don't have any others like him what so ever. I don't know how the mutation works. If he's bred to another bird that isn't a TCB, would the chicks come out splits? I'm rubbish at genetics, sorry!
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TCB is a mutation of the Ino gene and so is sexlinked recessive like Ino, but is dominant to Ino.

So both the parents must have been split to TCB to produce him.
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I think Texas Clearbody is probably a good assumption, especially since his head and body colour seem to be almost the same shade! His wings are also lightly marked so that makes sense. He's a bit olive so grey-green seems the right color!
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He can't be a TCB since Mom doesn't visually show it . TCB is a sex-linked mutation dominant to ino. Non-visual parents can only produce female TCBs that too from dad being split possibly . Females cannot be split to sex-linked mutations like TCB , ino , cinnamon . Since your chick is male , this rules out TCB.
He can't be grey or grey-green either as grey is a dominant mutation. Both parents cannot be split for it and at least one has to express it visually.

His colour is quite intriguing .

Does he have red eyes ?
If he does , he could be some form of a fallow. Fallow is an autosomal recessive mutation so both parents could be split for it . He could also be a greywing . I'm not very good at identifying the diluting mutations : :$

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