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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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We all know that size and colour properties of budgerigars inherited from their parents and ancestors.
and also , according to the genetics and biology, behaviours of them goes in same way.

For example, one of my hen was pulling the feather of her babbies unfortunately ( that was the only hen which does this thing in my flock )
I got 2 hen and a cock from this hen . And both of her daughters did the same thing to their babies. ( i am now thinking that feather plucking is a dominant trait )

Do you have any experience in your hobby like this. ? Dıd you observe any behaviour spesific on your budgies same with their ancestors.

This is very interesting for me and i wonder your experiences.


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Old 02-06-2015, 10:27 PM
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What a fine example of passing on genetic behavior you have provided. While I don't breed, and therefore have no experience's to share, I like your post and am looking forward to any of our breeding folk's sharing....awesome....
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I think it could also be a learned behaviour? Which is even more exciting since it could show that budgies are capable of developing a culture! Either way super cool observation.
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ITs always tricky to pick whether such a trait is learned or inherited. I do know that temperament is quite highly inherited in cattle. I have had foster calves raised on a very quite cow who were as scatter brained as their real mum, whom they didn't grow up with. And the opposite also.
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I think it could also be a learned behaviour? Which is even more exciting since it could show that budgies are capable of developing a culture! Either way super cool observation.
It could be also learned. But when this hen did this, i saw and got the babies from her immediately and gave to foster parents. Otherwise i could think that babies are living this, and thinking this is normal and applying same when they become adult.

so i dont think it is a culture. I think it is only genetical defect. ( maybe not defect, maybe beneficial mutation under some conditions to lost their feather because of any reason in some part of Australia which is their origin geography )

now i have a young female which is the daughter of the son of that hen. He mated with a very motherful nice hen and had this daughter.

she is 3 months old. I will give permission to her for breeding when she is 9 months old and see what happens. Nobody pulled her feather while she is baby, Therefore if she does this, to her offspring, i will prove that it is genetical and came from her father..

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Interesting concept and we do know that traits can be passed on from parents to siblings. How much is genetics and how much is learned behaviour can only be detemined by observations such as you are doing.
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I do have an experience with this! Years ago I decided I was going to drive up north and pick up a baby budgie from a breeder. The trip was successful and I brought home a little, hand raised, male English budgie.

Not a week after I brought him home he turned into a biting machine. With no apparent warning or reason he would become aggressive and bite, then hold on and scissor his beak as if he wanted to tear off a piece of my hand. He was not biting out of fear, he was biting just to bite.

It turns out that another user on here bought two baby budgies from the same breeder. One was a full sibling to mine, the other was not related. The one that was the full sibling to mine also started to bite with no rhyme or reason. The unrelated bird never developed biting habits, despite both birds being housed together with the same amount of attention given to them.

The kicker is that both my budgie and her two budgies (sibling and unrelated) were all hand raised at the same time; in the same group. So I'm convinced it was not a learned behavior but rather a personality quirk inherited from one of the parents.

This is my only experience with something like this, so take it with a grain of salt. I'm not an experienced budgie breeder by any means!
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Today, i was talking to my very experienced budgie breeder about these things. And he told me very interesting story.
he has about 800 budgies and he is selling thm by using facebook pages all over my country Turkey. He said that he has about 300 cages and the door of his cages is designed as you lift and opened. you will use your finger for uplifting and open.
He said that 2 years before he saw that one of his budgerigar , lifting the door by using his beak and escaping from cage. He saw this event many times but in only one same budgerigar
And he said only one more budgerigar tried that thing one year before. And surprise ! it is the son of previous cock.
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