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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Old 02-09-2015, 11:00 AM
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Sorry, I don't have good photos. She's sitting right now and I just never seem to have the camera when she comes out for short periods. She also not photogenic. I think she's much prettier in person. Anyway, I know she's mauve and spangle and I think I know what else. But could anyone help me with the Yellowface mutation? She has some, very light yellow to her wings that you can see in the third picture. Thank you!

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Old 02-09-2015, 11:09 AM
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Wow! That is a stunning hen. I love the intense definition of the spangles. I'll be interested in what the forum decides about her Yellowface mutation. I'm guessing YFI - but 'guessing' is the operative word! LOL
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:21 AM
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I'd say Mauve, Yellowfaced type I, spangle and maybe opaline, but I'd need to see her back/neck to know for sure on the opaline.
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:22 AM
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She looks to be a mauve spangle double factor Yellowface II. Legolas also appears to be a double factor yellowface II. So all of your resulting chicks will be double factor YF II!

It's common for DF YF II to have suffusion of yellow in the white of the wings, especially those with pied or spangle marking. There is no yellow spreading into the body color (causing green) that I can see from the photos. ^^
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Thank you Mikey! They have a breeding journal now. Only two fertile eggs, so fingers crossed both hatch.

LOL, thanks so much guys! Legolos is definitely DF yellowface II, so I know I'll get YF chicks. It's just trying to figure if she is YF I or II. If she's I, and he obviously gives a YF II and she gives a YF I, what would that produce? If she's II, I know what I'll get.

If I can catch her out of the box, I'll try to get a back shot. I don't think she's Opaline, but I'm obviously still learning!

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While I'm at it, I have a question on Legolos. I thought he was cobalt, but a couple people have said Sky Violet?
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If she is YF I, I don't think the genes can combine, so you'd either get one or the other. Or if YF II is dominant to YF I, then you'd get all YF II.

I believe she is YF II though. XP She seems to have the same shade of yellow on her face that Legolas does.
It's a little difficult to tell what shade of blue Legolas is from the photos. Were they taken with the flash on? From the photos he does look sky violet to me but flash tends to wash out the colors a bit.
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I'll say mauve yellowface I spangle.

She's lovely!
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Thanks everyone! At least I'm not the only one struggling with the I versus II. I think maybe her darker color makes the yellow look just a little lighter? Because she does look almost as dark as Legolos in the side by side shot.

Reece that was exactly what I didn't know either about the two yellowface options genetically.

The shot of Legolos is with a flash. I obviously can't move his cage right now for natural light. However, if he holds still long enough I'll try a long exposure. If it was going to be a big clutch I could count on the babies to tell me and maybe they still will. If he's sky, they'll all be cobalt. If he's cobalt they'll be half mauve and half cobalt.
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That is also an option! The babies shall tell all! I can't wait to see them!
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