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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Old 03-28-2015, 09:32 PM
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I think I have them, but would love to know for sure! Unfortunately, I couldn't get the violet to show much, as usual, but I'm pretty sure on that. I wish chick ten would show up as s/he is a lovely, bright lavender!

I have Mom, Pia, down as Sky, Cinnamon, SF YF II, Opaline.



And I have Dad, Finwe, as Sky, Violet, Spangle, split for Opaline.



So if I have things right, then any male babies would be split for Cinnamon and Opaline.

Babies in next post...

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Chick #5 - Sky, SF YF II, Spangle, Opaline hen:



Chick #6 - Sky, SF YF II



Chick #7 - Sky, Violet, SF YF II, Spangle





Chick #8 - Sky Violet Normal



Chick #9 - Sky, Violet, SF YF II, Spangle, Opaline



Chick #10 - Sky, Violet, Opaline



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Yep! Looks like they're all correct! Only question would be Pia, do her markings look brownish in person? It's hard to see on the picture, and although she looks a little lighter on the wings, it might just be the Opaline gene (which dilutes body color 10%)
Mallorn is an opaline yf II and her wings look a little like Pia's.

Your chicks are so adorable. I can't even say this enough.
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Looks like you have them right! Only thing would be that as the Dad is only split for Opaline, only half his boys will split for it also.
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I got it right! I got it right!

I sure couldn't have done that without learning from numerous people and resources here. Thank you all!

You're right Starling, Pia doesn't look obviously cinnamon in that shot. I hadn't noticed. But she is in person. I'll see if I don't have a picture that shows it better.

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Hello, sorry for being a "party pooper" in this thread but, I don't think any of your babies are YF II, I don't see any body suffusion, of course it’s too early to say, but look at your mommy picture, she has her yellow from face spread thru the body and sky become see-greenish, in your case, as of now chicks don't have that effect, so I wouldn't call them as YF II yet, pure YF I. However, wait for the moult and you will know for sure.
Very cute babies! May favorite is chick number 7!
One more thing, I think some of your babies are cobalt's, not sky's, but it could be camera's effect.
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Thanks Slav! From my understanding you don't see any of that diffusion until after the baby molt. I know the hen is single factor yellowface II, and so it would seem to me that that inheriting that single yellowface II gene would be the only way they would be yellowface. The only other option would be if dad happened to be a double factor yellowface I ( which isn't visible) and then some of them could be single factor yellowface I and wouldn't get the "wash" after their molt.

From my understanding there are two forms of each type of yellowface. There is single or double factor yellowface I and single or double factor yellowface II. Yellowface I and Yellowface II are completely separate and different mutations.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong!!
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Thanks Slav! From my understanding you don't see any of that diffusion until after the baby molt. I know the hen is single factor yellowface II, and so it would seem to me that that inheriting that single yellowface II gene would be the only way they would be yellowface. The only other option would be if dad happened to be a double factor yellowface I ( which isn't visible) and then some of them could be single factor yellowface I and wouldn't get the "wash" after their molt.

From my understanding there are two forms of each type of yellowface. There is single or double factor yellowface I and single or double factor yellowface II. Yellowface I and Yellowface II are completely separate and different mutations.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong!!
You are right, that's why I said, wait until their moult
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