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Thread Description:Can a single pied parent produce a Dom. & Clearflight Pied?

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Old 05-20-2015, 12:52 PM
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I think I know basically the answers, but would love to hear from our experts. They both have very pale yellow faces, and though it doesn't really show in flash photography, their wings are super pale yellow as well. Prisca is definitely a cinnamon and they are siblings. I'm waiting on pictures of Mom and Dad.

Prisca:





Turin - sorry for so many pictures, couldn't pick! ETA: The last picture is most accurate as to color.







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THEY ARE SO PRETTY! *ahem* I mean, why, what lovely chicks!
Prisca is a normal cinnamon (clearflight pied? or dominant? I'm going dominant since she and Turin are siblings) sky blue violet yellowface (I or II, depends on the parents) A thing: I noticed there's some suffusion in Prisca's wings. It's gorgeous! Contrasts with the bold brown markings
Turin is a normal grey dominant pied yellowface (again, parents) and may have sf violet.
They are absolute jewels!
Who are the parents?
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Thank you Starling! These two are not my breeding, I've brought in some outside blood to cross in the future with some of this year's babies.
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Thank you Starling! These two are not my breeding, I've brought in some outside blood to cross in the future with some of this year's babies.
I remember that from the other post! They will make good breeders, I love the cinnamon and pieds!
Do you know the parents at all? If not, they could be either sf or df violet (I'm thinking sf for Prisca and possibly sf for Turin, but this depends on if one or both the parents were sf or df) and yf I or II.
I'm excited to see them grow up!
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I was a dork. I was in a bit of a hurry when I picked them up and only glanced at the parents to see size and such. I meant to take pictures. All I remember was one was a dark pied and the other wasn't pied. Oh and that neither were cinnamon, so dad must be split. I've asked the breeder to send me pictures when she gets a chance.
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I've not dealt much with pieds, so I'm really curious about Prisca. She looks like a clearflight pied to me too, but not sure of the odds of that with her brother clearly SF dominant pied. The breeder has great facilities, feeds a good diet, etc., but she's not terribly up on color genetics.
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I've not dealt much with pieds, so I'm really curious about Prisca. She looks like a clearflight pied to me too, but not sure of the odds of that with her brother clearly SF dominant pied. The breeder has great facilities, feeds a good diet, etc., but she's not terribly up on color genetics.
I'm curious, too. As soon as the pictures come in, I'll try and help you figure it out! I can't wait, actually.
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Sorry, these pictures are pretty bad, but they are what the breeder sent me. Dad is on the food dish.



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From the pictures, I think we can now assume that:

Dad is split for cinnamon-->Prisca is cinnamon

Mum is grey-->Turin is grey

Pied factor is dominant pied.

There has to be a sf violet factor in there somewhere--best bet is that mum is grey violet, obviously it's impossible to tell from the picture but I don't think the dad is.
That's my best guess, I'm sorry the breeder didn't send better pictures!
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I am birdnapping Prisca for sure. She is gorgeous and looks so feminine in the first photo.
They are both very lovely birds...
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