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Old 06-28-2015, 04:11 PM
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Hello all! I went through some old pictures as I'm trying to chart all the chicks that was born in the last clutch and I came across my little Snow. I have to admit she (I called her a she anyway) has me quite stumped about what mutation she is and I was wondering what you guys think
Here are a few pictures of her. Sorry I don't have any better ones but she moved to a new home with lots of friends quite some time ago so I can't get new ones.


This was Snow when she had just left the nest. She never developed even a hint of markings on her wings and tail. She was also missing a lot of the stripes on her head in the pattern you can see on the picture. It looks the same on either side. She was also completely devoid of any blue except on her rump by the base of her tailfeathers, and also a veeeery faint streak on both cheeks. The colour is sky blue just like her father.



Snow was a daddy's girl



One cheeck patch was white, the other almost completely blue.



This last one is really bad but shows the little spot of blue between her wings. Again, not as dark as here but rather a sky blue.

Again, sorry about the quality but these are all I have She's living in a lovely aviary now with lots of friends so she's in a good place but I just can't stop wondering about her genes Any pointers?
Thank you in advance!

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To me it looks like she could be a skyblue double facter dominant pied.

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If the light green budgie on the second photo is Snow's mother than your Snow is a sky blue recessive pied budgie. Both parents are split to recessive pied, I also had that very pleasant surprise with one of my pairs.
From all of those pictures, even though they were taken with a flash, I'm seeing a rather strong pinkish colour on Snow's cere making him a boy.
Did he keep the pinkish colour there? That would further prove Snow is a male.
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If the light green budgie on the second photo is Snow's mother than your Snow is a sky blue recessive pied budgie. Both parents are split to recessive pied, I also had that very pleasant surprise with one of my pairs.
From all of those pictures, even though they were taken with a flash, I'm seeing a rather strong pinkish colour on Snow's cere making him a boy.
Did he keep the pinkish colour there? That would further prove Snow is a male.
I think he did keep the pink yes so you are right in your assumption I still need a lot of practice for sexing them And yes, the green is the mom. When I got her she was an assumed male as the pet shop (as usual) had no idea about budgie genetics. I'm still learning so thanks a lot
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To me it looks like she could be a skyblue double facter dominant pied.
Thanks a lot! I'll make sure to do a lot of research on it for future reference
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Actually i agree with aluz now about her being recessive pied not double facter, i just relized the other 2 birds are her parents, thats what i get for not reading posts properley lol.
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Then in that case Snow really is recessive pied.
To be a double factor dominant pied budgie, both parents would have to be visual dominant pied budgies and Snow's parents are normal, so they really are split for recessive pied.
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Actually i agree with aluz now about her being recessive pied not double facter, i just relized the other 2 birds are her parents, thats what i get for not reading posts properley lol.
Haha no worries ^^ I didn't actually add that info to the post because I didn't realize it would matter in determining so my bad really I still need to learn more so thanks a lot ^^
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Then in that case Snow really is recessive pied.
To be a double factor dominant pied budgie, both parents would have to be visual dominant pied budgies and Snow's parents are normal, so they really are split for recessive pied.
I have to bow my head to your attentiveness really. I hope to be able to become that good at seeing that in my budgies I'm still a rookie breeder so I haven't developed a keen eye yet^^ Thank you so much ^^
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I have to bow my head to your attentiveness really. I hope to be able to become that good at seeing that in my budgies I'm still a rookie breeder so I haven't developed a keen eye yet^^ Thank you so much ^^
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