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Old 06-30-2015, 09:59 AM
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Hi guys, can you please tell me the pairing expectations of this lovely pair, I know that 50% would be spangle and 50% normal and that 100% would be yellow faced but .. Anything else




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Very beautiful pair

According to PE Theory 13% crested babies can be expected
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What a gorgeous pair! I see some opaline markings on your cock, and if that's the case, all female babies will be opaline and all male babies will be split opaline. You'll also get cobalts and skys.

That's all I can tell! I can't wait to see the chicks!
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You may not get 100% yellow faces. It depends if both are df for the same type of yf or not. If thy are you will get 100% yf. They are gorgeous!

I don't think the male is Opaline though.
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The male doesn't seem to be opaline spangle, but it's difficult to tell with the crest. Do you have a picture of his back?

The male appears to be sky blue single factor spangle, double factor yellowface type II with a full circular crest.

The female seems to be cobalt single factor creamface (yellowface type I) since her yellow is significantly lighter, but it is also possible she could be double factor yellowface type II.

Crest genetics are complicated and a mode of inheritance hasn't quite been established yet, but normally breeding a crested with a non-crested results in some crested young.

Seeing how the male appears to be double factor yellowface type II, all the chicks should be single factor yellowface type II. Half should have the female's creamface genes.

25% chance of cobalt spangle SF YF II
25% chance of sky blue spangle SF YF II
25% chance of normal cobalt SF YF II
25% chance of normal sky blue SF YF II

I hope this helps.
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Oh my gosh, I am so in love with this pair!

I agree that the male is not opaline, but he does have a great deal of suffusion and this is especially common in males that are split for opaline

When you mix two different yellowface mutations the results and breeding outcomes from there on out get a bit tricky. From what I have seen/read a combination of sf yellowface I and sf yellowface II often has a similar appearance as a df yellowface II, although the yellowface markings are much more mottled and irregular.

I am very interested to see what these two beauties have
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I was unsure on the opaline, thank you for clarifying Lindsey and Toni
Opalines have much more blended colours and you won't see any of the spangle lines, just body colour and mask colour taking the place of the dark spangle lines.

I can't wait to see their clutch!
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Opalines have much more blended colours and you won't see any of the spangle lines, just body colour and mask colour taking the place of the dark spangle lines.
Opaline Spangles can still have clearly visible spangle lines, they vary so much it is tricky to describe all the variations - which is probably why they are so lovely! This lovely Spangle Opaline has the reduced barring and markings missing between the wings but very strong Spangle markings.

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