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Hi everyone !
I finally have 2 lacewing females (one opaline white based and the other dominant pied yellow based ) .
I also have a male who is split to cinnamon and ino . Hes had 2 daughters ; one cinnamon and one ino .
What would happen if I paired him with one of the lacewing females ?
What would their male chicks' splits be ?
Will they all be split to lacewing or would cinnamon/ino be passed on separately ?
Since lacewing is a combo of them both , im sure its impossible for a bird to split to lacewing and/or cinnamon/ino .
Would love to hear your thoughts on this

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Wow, I'm sure they are gorgeous!!

If you paired him with the opaline white based, all the male chicks will be split for opaline, and you will get both male and female cinnamons, as well as male and female inos since the female is ino and the male is split. Because of this, from this pairing you could get both male and female lacewings, and as long as the male is blue series Ino instead of green series Ino then all the inos and lacewings will be white. If the male is green series, unless he's split to blue, you'll get yellow based lacewings, I'm pretty sure.
All male chicks will either be split to cinnamon or show visual cinnamon because the mother is visual cinnamon, as well as all male chicks will either be split to Ino or be visual Inos for the same reason. All males will be split opaline.

If you breed him too the yellow based dom. pied hen, if he's blue series, then all the chicks will be yellow based because yellow based is dominant to white based in all cases unless the hen is split for blue, in which case you will get both white based and yellow based chicks.

Dominant pied is always dominant in SF form so you will get some chicks who are dom. pied. If they are Lacewing or regular Ino, you will not be able to tell if they are SF dom. pied until you breed them.
All male chicks in this pairing will either show visual cinnamon or be split for cinnamon, as well as show Ino or be /Ino.

Since Lacewing is a combination mutation, cinnamon and Ino are passed on separately

I think that's all of it, anyone feel free to add more to this!

Hope this helps, I'm anxious to see this pairing!
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Thank you for the response

So basically since hes split for both separately , his sons with with either of the females need not HAVE to be split for Lacewing and could be split for either cinnamon / ino or display it visually .
The reason I was asking was because I wanted to pair up a male split to lacewing from this clutch with the yellow based lacewing hen who is a bit young at the moment.

If I breed a normal male without cinnamon or ino in the picture , im guaranteed split lacewing sons right ?
If that's the case , I shall pair Lacey the white lacewing with another male.
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Unless the male is secretly split Ino and Cinnamon, then yes you will get all sons who are split to cinnamon and Ino
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Well here are a few pics of the new female !

She is tiny even though she looks like an adult. I think shes my smallest budgie at the moment. My largest show type is easily double her size :/ .




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Wow! What a (tiny ) beauty! She's adorable!
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She's so sweet! She's about as big as my hen, she also is very small
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She isn't tame whatsoever but she doesn't bite at all. I held her in all possible ways but she seemed pretty calm with the whole thing.

She seems to be missing a few toenails though i think from fights with the other budgies in their crowded cage .
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I'm glad you are able to rescue her and give her a new home
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