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Hello!!

Managed to get photos of him/her and I am now able to show off his beauty (haha he's so plaaaain). But here are some photos and I was hoping I might be able to get a gender/phenotype?

The only mutation I can say he has is spangle, the photo might make him seem like a cinnamon but it's just very dilute black. Belly is white from under his throat all the way to his vent. There aren't any predominant cheek markings from what I can see. Tail feathers are black/white sort of splotched along.

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single factor violet, greywing opaline, clear flight pied cock
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He's beautiful
To me, he appears to be a grey opaline clearflight pied greywing cock, although possibly he could be a Texas Clearbody. Do you have any more shots of him?

He is just so cute!
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He's beautiful
To me, he appears to be a grey opaline clearflight pied greywing cock, although possibly he could be a Texas Clearbody. Do you have any more shots of him?

He is just so cute!
hes far from a texas clear body
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hes far from a texas clear body
Well, I noticed his front is a lot lighter than his rump, and although he may not look like a pure, show-marked TCB I think from those pictures it still could be possible, although I do agree that he appears to be more the first prediction we both agreed on

I think a few more pictures in better lighting would clear that up right away
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I'm quite sure he has the Grey factor. A solid black tail is a clear indication of grey.

He could be a TCB too .
The markings on his back are quite dark getting lighter towards his flights. Too bad the last few flights are affected by the pied.

He might also be a recessive pied instead because of the clear chest.

I don't think hes a greywing personally. The markings on his wings are too dark .
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That is one interesting looking budgie! Not plain at all, and defintiely not Spangle. He is a Grey and a Pied of some sort, I am not sure about Opaline but his markings are very unusual. They seem darker up high then become quite pale further down the wings, which is why some are suggesting Texas Clearbody. If the flights weren't white it would be more obvious one way or the other.

Recessive Pieds often have the markings kind of pale/grizzled not completely solid like that, though the position of the white indicates Clearflight Pied....

I reckon a few more pictures would help and probably waiting to see if an iris ring develops. I have seen some odd looking Recessive Pieds at times and wouldn't be completely surprised if this turned out to be another.
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Darn I was so sure he was a spangle xD. Goes to show I don't know my phenotyping! Since it is night time I'll wait till tomorrow and take some professional photos on the big camera

There is definitely a gradient on the wing markings starting darker at the top and fading out. Also noticed the on his back, between the area covered by the bottom of his flights it is a light grey! (Hadn't actually noticed it before taking these photos). I'll need to try and move on of his wings out of the way for a better shot .

Thanks though! I'll get them up ASAP!
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Will look forward to more pics. A Texas Clearbody would have darker markings up high and pale down low. The body colour would be mostly washed out on the chest but darker on the rump. So I can see why it is an option though I don't know much about them.

It's markings are normal in that there is a dark centre on each feather with a white edge. If it was a Spangle you would see white centre, black outline then the white outline on each wing feather.
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