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Old 12-14-2015, 02:21 AM
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I have a female budgie named Ramona who I am considering breeding next. I don't have another cinnamon or an albino to breed her with. Providing a photo or two of her. She is blue series, yellowface and opaline. Any suggestions what she would pair well with?




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I am sure she would be happy with whoever you choose. The mate you choose really depends on what you want to achieve. Can you give us an idea of what colours or varieties you would like to produce?
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I agree with Toni, it depends on the type of chicks you would like.

From a pairing with a non-cinnamon cock, it is impossible to get any cinnamon chicks as it is a sex-linked gene located on the X chromosomes. Males must have two copies of the gene to show it (Males have XX) and females must have one copy (XY). Because your female is carrying it, and female chicks must get a Y chromosome from their mother, not an X (they get that from dad), no female chicks will be cinnamon. Males inherit one X from mum and one X from dad, so all males will not show cinnamon, but will be split.

Ino works the same way--but if you paired her with an Ino (albino or lutino) male, all females would be visual Ino (as the father gives the one X chromosome with the trait females have) and all males would be split.

Opaline also works the same way--since she's carrying the trait (assuming the father is not opaline or split opaline), no chicks will be opaline and all males will be split.

Keep in mind that if you want blue chicks, the cock will have to be blue unless you're certain he's green and split for blue (which you would only know by knowing lineage or from previous breedings). Yellowface is a dominant trait so all chicks will be yellowface

I hope all of that makes sense, that's just a preview of some things that could factor into the chick's mutations. Of course, it all comes down to what you want
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I know I won't get any more cinnamons from her. A shame that they're so uncommon where I live.

I have a violet factor green opaline male who is split for blue that I bred a while back. I think I'm going to pair the two of them together when he's ready.


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I agree with Toni, it depends on the type of chicks you would like.

From a pairing with a non-cinnamon cock, it is impossible to get any cinnamon chicks as it is a sex-linked gene located on the X chromosomes. Males must have two copies of the gene to show it (Males have XX) and females must have one copy (XY). Because your female is carrying it, and female chicks must get a Y chromosome from their mother, not an X (they get that from dad), no female chicks will be cinnamon. Males inherit one X from mum and one X from dad, so all males will not show cinnamon, but will be split.

Ino works the same way--but if you paired her with an Ino (albino or lutino) male, all females would be visual Ino (as the father gives the one X chromosome with the trait females have) and all males would be split.

Opaline also works the same way--since she's carrying the trait (assuming the father is not opaline or split opaline), no chicks will be opaline and all males will be split.

Keep in mind that if you want blue chicks, the cock will have to be blue unless you're certain he's green and split for blue (which you would only know by knowing lineage or from previous breedings). Yellowface is a dominant trait so all chicks will be yellowface

I hope all of that makes sense, that's just a preview of some things that could factor into the chick's mutations. Of course, it all comes down to what you want
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That will be a lovely pair! You'll get so many colours

I hope that when the time comes, you'll share some pictures with us!
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