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Thread Description:I am just wondering about the possible outcomes of a pair of my budgies.

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Default Possible Future Pairing

I am just wondering about the possible outcomes of a pair of my budgies. My male, Storm, is currently paired with one of my females, Ghost. I have started their journal. However, I'm wondering about what I could be looking at for possible chicks if I paired him with a different female next year (she isn't old enough to breed, so it would be the beginning of next winter before I could even think about breeding her.) He is either a mauve or grey full body greywing spangle, and she is a sky yellowface II opaline. I am unsure of the parentage for either of them, so I do not know what they could be split with. Anyone know what I could be looking at for possible offspring? I am really bad at using the calculators...

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If he is grey, all babies will be grey, and you'll get yellowface II chicks Some spangles, and all split to clearwing/greywing (fullbody greywing is a combination of these two genes).

If he is mauve, you should get all blues, some sky, some mauve, and even some cobalts, I believe. Other than the different body colour, the same expectations apply, disregarding splits, of course
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A single factor Grey will have both blue and grey babies, so you may get either unless he is double factor Grey.
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Forgot to mention the double factor vs. single factor thing, thanks for adding that, Toni
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Because my male really looks more mauve to me than grey, but someone else said his cheek patches make him look like a grey, that he could be a grey with a violet factor? I know that a grey with a violet factor could make a bird's coloring very similar to mauve. However, aside from the cheek patches, the best way I know to tell is by the color of the tail feathers, but his are white. Also, with the check patches, is it possible for his spangle mutation to alter the color of them?
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Spangle budgies tend to have more pale cheek patches, so the typical dark silvery-grey cheek patches of grey budgies would have a paler, frostier grey colouring on their cheek patches. From the pictures you posted previously, it is hard to tell if he has any violet, but mauve shows up on camera and violet doesn't really, so that could be it.

I think it's very possible he could be a single factor violet grey
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So the other "female", I'm not sure now if she is a female. I took her out of the aviary today, because it looks like someone was picking on her, and when I had her in different light, it looks like she might be a he. I am going to post a few pictures, if nothing else, because she/he is adorable! Although, if any of you have a better guess at the sex than I do, please share. A yellowface II opaline, I know, but is there anything in the mutation I'm missing? On the one wing, as you can see, there are a couple white feathers, but it is the only white on the bird. Not sure why that is there.





On this last picture, you can see where I think she got nipped on her cere. I moved her to a different cage. In my large aviary, I have a rather grouchy female. She gets along with the other birds in there, but on occasion, she decides she doesn't like someone for whatever reason. That's why I have extra cages. I think this picture is so cute though. Who me?

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I replied on your other thread that your new little one is a boy, and also is single factor goldenface, sky blue, opaline, not yellowface II My girl is a yellowface II, and her yellow face is much less bright than his.

What a stunning boy!
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