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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.
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So I haven't been active for a while what with starting TAFE (college) and also working on my 3D career - I've also had to downsize a little, sold off quite a few birds and just kept the ones I'm interested in breeding.

I'm trying to condense and focus on Fallows, TCB's and rainbows (both greywing and clearwing) and regular, clean clearwings. Which is proving much more of a challenge than I thought to get those super clear wings, but when I get some more $ coming in I'll be buying in better / clearer stock

So I've only got 3 pairs breeding right now, and these are:

- Rainbow hen x SF violet, sky opaline, goldenface 1 spangle/clearwing cock
(much anticipated babies! She's on 3 eggs right now, I suspect 2 are fertile but not sure til they hatch). Luckily - both are proven breeders with other partners so they know just what to do to raise healthy chicks Here they are on the left, and one of my HUGE split rec. pieds on the right (Dayumn!)



Couple on the coconut




(Sorry for so many rainbow photos - they are just way too fun to take pics of!)

- Sky blue clearwing hen x light green clearwing /yellowface blue cock
- have thrown two female yellowface sky blue clearwings, and one light green split blue cock (almost all fully fledged!)







(Please excuse the dirty nestbox - 3 nearly fledged babies crap, a LOT). The green and the fledged YF are showing a lot of promise! The other one has kind of dirty wings but I'll wait to see how she moults out.

- DF violet clearwing hen x SF violet cobalt opaline dom pied greywing/clearwing cock

- these guys are going for another round after a snake took their whole clutch of week old chicks (about 6 wks back) - have bred SF and DF violet greywings and clearwings, as well as clearwing pieds. Though, one of their chicks ALMOST looks like a DF violet recessive pied, which is extremely odd but he's only about 4 months old so he might just be a 'late cere bloomer'

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One of their chicks:


Also some other fun ones cos I can't resist chucking pics up here:
(nearly) All my TCB's lined up in a row (bar one hen):


My second home-bred TCB who is a much better bird than the first




Violet dom pied opaline cinnamon hen who hasn't bred yet, but is eyeing up the GF opaline I'm trying to rehome.. Haven't decided who to put her with after he's gone.


A big hen, split to rec pied - quite a lovely nature, doesn't bite at all.


Opaline male red-rump, who I never realised were so pretty!


A pic of one end of the aviary. The other end is branches, perches, breeding cages and a few toys


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Old 02-17-2016, 04:16 PM
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Hey there, what a lot of beautiful birds! As far as varieties go can I make a couple of comments?

Is there a reason you think your Light Green Clearwing cock is Yellow face? I wonder as his Skyblue Clearwing hen is clearly a Yellow Face 1, so he wouldn't need to be to produce Yellow Faces.

SF violet cobalt opaline dom pied greywing/clearwing cock - if a bird has both Greywing and Clearwing then it is known as a Full Bodied Greywing. Greywing can't be split for Clearwing as they are co-dominant, creating an inbetween form.

They all look so lovely in the aviary, so gorgeous.r if there is a good reason to have one?
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Your birds are amazing. Thanks for sharing.
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What beautiful birds!

They are stunning, you have particularly eye-catching shades, for sure.

I thought I'd mentioned that I would trim the rope fringe hanging from the toys, budgies can get seriously injured by getting tangled in it or chewing on it and ingesting the fibres, which causes crop impaction.

Also, I would remove the coconut nest the two rainbows are sitting on since there are females in the aviary and they may surprise you one day and get broody and lay in it

Thank you for sharing your birds with us, they were so enjoyable to "meet"!
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Hey there, what a lot of beautiful birds! As far as varieties go can I make a couple of comments?

Is there a reason you think your Light Green Clearwing cock is Yellow face? I wonder as his Skyblue Clearwing hen is clearly a Yellow Face 1, so he wouldn't need to be to produce Yellow Faces.

SF violet cobalt opaline dom pied greywing/clearwing cock - if a bird has both Greywing and Clearwing then it is known as a Full Bodied Greywing. Greywing can't be split for Clearwing as they are co-dominant, creating an inbetween form.

They all look so lovely in the aviary, so gorgeous.r if there is a good reason to have one?
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What beautiful birds!

They are stunning, you have particularly eye-catching shades, for sure.

I thought I'd mentioned that I would trim the rope fringe hanging from the toys, budgies can get seriously injured by getting tangled in it or chewing on it and ingesting the fibres, which causes crop impaction.

Also, I would remove the coconut nest the two rainbows are sitting on since there are females in the aviary and they may surprise you one day and get broody and lay in it

Thank you for sharing your birds with us, they were so enjoyable to "meet"!
@ Tonic:
How can you tell the hen is yellowface one? The yellowface in the pic is his (newly fledged) daughter, the sky blue hen behind him is the actual mother. Though, if there is a way to tell if a bird is double-factor yellowface 1 I'd be landed if you could tell me

RE: greywing / clearwing - thanks! I thought they were separate mutations. But that's super useful to know because you often get the best coloured clearwings with one full-bodied greywing parent - even if the chicks themselves are clearwings.

As far as your last comment.. I'm afraid I don't really understand, sorry . Is there a good reason to have a what..?

@ Starling:
I will trim it but I've never had an issue with that toy or any other rope toys as my birds generally have tons to do in the way of branches, foraging etc but it's good advice nonetheless.

As far as the coconut, I'm going to leave it (and the other) in there - I've got some finches as well and would like to give them a place to nest if they want. I've got tons of boxes down the other end to see who's interested in breeding and if any are they go off into their own cage with their partner for breeding - so there's not really much risk of the budgies nesting inside the coconut
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How can you tell the hen is yellowface one? The yellowface in the pic is his (newly fledged) daughter, the sky blue hen behind him is the actual mother. Though, if there is a way to tell if a bird is double-factor yellowface 1 I'd be landed if you could tell me

RE: greywing / clearwing - thanks! I thought they were separate mutations. But that's super useful to know because you often get the best coloured clearwings with one full-bodied greywing parent - even if the chicks themselves are clearwings.

As far as your last comment.. I'm afraid I don't really understand, sorry . Is there a good reason to have a what..?
Lol, the last sentence has been chopped up some how! I think I was asking about the coconut, having seen so many issues with them. There is definitely the risk of budgie hens killing finch eggs and chicks if they are in breeding mood.

Yellow Face - I assumed the yellow face hen was a younger picture of the hen of the pair, oops. In light of your new info it is likely the male is green/yf, or the hen could be a df YF1 as they have the normal white face of a blue. Either way you should only ever get greens or yf blues from this pair. The only way to tell is a bird is a df YF1 is to breed it with a blue and see whether you ever get any non-yf chick.

Greywing and Clearwing - they are separate mutations but of the same gene and are co-dominant to both have a visual effect when present together. That is interesting about full bodied Greywings making the best Clearwings!

All in all, such pretty birds you have!
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Such gorgeous mutations and colors. A group of birds to be proud of. I love your TCB's!
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