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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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After reading many web pages I am totally confused on the subject of inheritance in White and or albino budgies.
Is there two forms ie dark eyed White and pink eyed albino.
In canaries white X White is not recommended due to the death gene.
So in budgies should you use White X White, White X Albino, Albino X Albino to maintain the perfect White.
Also one of the White budgies that I purchased has quite obvious blue legs.
Any information on White budgies would be appreciated.
I hope to hear from someone.
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Welcome to the forums!

There are 3 distinct colour mutations that render a budgie's plumage fully white.
Albino budgies are fully white in colour, have pink feet and red eyes, there is no mistaking.

White based (blue series) dark-eyed clear budgies are fully white in colour, their eyes are black in colour and due to the combination of genes, these budgies will not develop white irises upon reaching adulthood. Their feet are pink in colour.

The ceres on male dark-eyed clears and albinos will not mature to the royal blue colour. The ceres will keep the pinkish/purplish colour.

White based (blue series) double factor spangles are also fully white in colour, their eyes are black in colour and they will develop white irises upon reaching adulthood. When mature, the ceres will be royal blue in colour.

Depending on the chick's heritage, there can be some faint suffusion of blue colour on the feathers, especially when under certain lighting.

Just like with canaries and other species of pet birds, it's also not advisable to breed two visual Ino (albinos, lutinos) budgies.

It would be best to find a normal blue series budgie who is split for Ino to pair with a visual albino.

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Aluz is absolutely correct. As for inheritance, white-based double factor spangles need two dominant spangle genes (one from each parent) to exhibit the pure white double factor spangle trait.

White-based dark eyed clear budgies are a combination of cleaflight pied gene and recessive pied, it is essentially a form of combination pied.

Albino budgies are tricker--any Ino trait (albino or lutino) is sex-linked, which in budgies means that the gene is located on the X chromosome. Because of this, females (XY) need only one copy of the gene to show it, wheras males (XX) need two copies of the gene to show it

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Great I have found a group that know what they are talking about.
Just a point of interest, I am training a linnet, found injured by a friend, by using a linnet cd. I might be going mad but I thought I heard the linnet singing, but I found the song coming from my budgie cock. I know that they can mimic so watch out roller canaries you have competition.
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