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Old 03-16-2016, 09:34 PM
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Question What is Mad's Mutation?

I'm wondering what Madison's mutation is, not that I'm going to breed him, but I might decide to later. I'm going to try to add pics, let me know if you can't see them or get to them and I'll try again:






Also, he's a bit freaked by the camera, so I hope these pics are enough.

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Hey Katie!

Mads is beautiful! I absolutely love his colouring

He looks like a sky blue, single factor violet, yellowface type I combination pied budgie

Gorgeous combination That first picture of him on his foodbowl is precious!
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Old 03-17-2016, 01:29 AM
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I agree mostly, though I think he is likely a Dominant Pied rather than a combination pied.... however, with these sorts of pieds we are really just guessing based on what the markings are most like!
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Katie, beautiful bird! I love Madison's colors . Star, can you please explain to me (and other non-mutations-experts) how you see he 'might be' combination pied rather than just dominant pied? Thanks!
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I also think Madison is a dominant pied and looking at the intensity of his yellow colour and the fact that the yellow has started to spread into the blue body feathers (pic 4) I'd say he is yellow face type II.

If possible, do remove the cozy tent from your Madison's cage, budgies don't need "beds" to rest in or sleep for the night. Not only these tents can lead to unwanted egg laying in females, but they also pose a serious threat to small birds if they happen to ingest the fibres from the material leading to digestive problems and worst case scenario crop impaction, not to mention they can get their toenails caught in the fabric and hurting their feet in the process.
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He was in Earl's cage in the photos. That's why there's a fuzzy bed and large pellets, but thank you for noticing, I'll take your warning and remove it for Earl, anyway.
So he's a sky blue, single factor violet, yellowface type I or II dominant/combination pied? Or something like that?
Wow, that's complicated, but I'll make sure to tell him. Both my boys are pied!
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From what I'm seeing in the photos he is a sky blue violet yellow face type II dominant pied budgie.
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I thought combination pied because his cere is the mottled colour many combination pied budgies have, and his feet are bright pink, which could contribute. I agree that his markings are more towards dominant pied, I was looking at the cere to say combination pied.
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Aww Madison is so beautiful.thanks so much for the photos.if he ever breeds ,he will truly have some beautiful babies.blessings.
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I thought combination pied because his cere is the mottled colour many combination pied budgies have, and his feet are bright pink, which could contribute. I agree that his markings are more towards dominant pied, I was looking at the cere to say combination pied.
I figured those points were contributing! You could be right but I have seen Dominant Pieds where the cere has been affected by the pieding (is that a word?!) and is partly without pigment. Like I said, we are really just guessing based on what we can see.
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