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Question Dominant pieds don't have throat spots

So i was searching for something earlier (had nothing to do with Dominant pied) but came across this website (saw the same statement on a couple other sites as well but now i can't find them - i really need to learn to book mark pages more often)

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Dominant Pieds:-
Dominant Pieds have no black throat spots and have an Iris ring (white ring in their eye.) The body colour is to be an even solid shade, except the patches of ground colour that apear on any part(s) of the body and cheeks. The back of the head, neck and wings will have clearly defining black bars.
from here https://www.freewebs.com/budgerigarpl...ifferences.htm


Now if this holds true then Tweety is NOT a dominant Pied at all

he has black throat spots - and nice ones too if i may add

I also was able to FINALLY get a picture of his lone White tail feather, its the top tail feather, he always molts it out, so in all his pictures his tail feather (the one you see) is always navy blue

First pic i just took yesterday of Tweety's white tail - I was all excited finally he had it during picture day -



and here are a few pics of his Throat spots

here is one - you can see one of his throat spots and his tail is navy blue in this pic lol




here is a better front shot you can see all his throat spots (and his tail is blue like i said his lone white feather was always molted out on picture day lol)



So if it is true that Dominant pieds do not have throat patches, then this means Blizzard (Tweety's son) is NOT dominant pied , and either is Jasper (he also has throat spots i'll post a pic) so what ever they are then Jasper is that and that means that Casper isn't masking Dominant pied after all

and if this is true, I've got a lot of erasing to do in my records because it means i don't have dominant pieds after all


here is the best pic i can find right of of Jasper and his throat spots




and here is a back view of his wings


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I see that you got your computer back. You must have had TB withdrawals.
Anyway, why is there always conflicting details about mutations. I've tried to figure them all out but then just when I think I got it, I go check other info and it's a whole different story sometimes. Just like you.
Sheesh! I give up.

p.s. your birds are so pretty.
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I see that you got your computer back. You must have had TB withdrawals.
Anyway, why is there always conflicting details about mutations. I've tried to figure them all out but then just when I think I got it, I go check other info and it's a whole different story sometimes. Just like you.
Sheesh! I give up.

p.s. your birds are so pretty.

yeah i got it back but i'm not on it, lol my son is on it in the kitchen I actually was surprised to see the Fedex man show up with it Friday morning when i just dropped it off in the drop box on Wed. afternoon , talk about speedy delivery - even thought it was to be done over night, but i've had other things supposed to be shipped over night and took longer to get to me

thank you, I tell them every day how pretty they are

I wish all information would coincide with each other, it would make our lives so much easier
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The following quote is taken from the World Budgerigar Organisation Colour Standards and as you can see they do have throat spots. At a show it would be considered a fault if your dominant pied had no throat spots

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DOMINANT PIED SKYBLUE (LIGHT BLUE)

General body colour: rump, breast, flanks and underparts deep skyblue of an even depth of colour throughout but broken with no more than a maximum of 50% of total body colour area by irregular patches of white or with a white band around its middle just above the thighs.

Mask: white, ornamented by six evenly spaced large round black throat spots, the outer two being partially covered by the base of the cheek patches. The white of the mask extending over the frontal and crown, to merge with the black undulations at the back of the head. The frontal and crown should be clear and free from all markings.

Head patch: white at back of head.
Markings: on cheeks, back of head, neck and wings; black with a well-defined white edge but having irregular patches of white or with part of the leading edge of the wing up to the shoulder white on an otherwise normally marked wing. Wing markings may be grizzled in appearance. All markings should be free from any intrusion of body colour.

Cere: blue, fleshy pink or a mixture of both in cocks, brown in hens.

Eyes: black with a white iris.

Cheek patches: violet.

Primary wing flights: white.

Primary tail feathers: white.

Feet and legs: blue/grey mottled, fleshy pink or a mixture of both.
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Thanks, the only thing that tweety doesn't match is the cheek patches, his are Navy blue and not violet
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Thanks, the only thing that tweety doesn't match is the cheek patches, his are Navy blue and not violet
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