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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Hello,

Could someone tell me what mutations have my budgies...

I ve a doubt if my chicks are simply double factor dark green or if they're cobalt YF2 ?
The mother is still breeding...so she's maybe not as normal.
both chicks are opaline and the one on the right in the first picture looks like a greywings.

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The father is opaline cobalt (or may be opaline violet sky blue), The mother is opaline green and the chicks are both opaline dark green but we'd need to see a back view to tell if there are any other mutations showing. It is usual for dark green and olive chicks to have a slightly bluish hue, especially if they are carrying violet, this will disappear with the first moult

For a budgie to be double factor of a mutation the gene would have to come from both parents, so they can't be double factor of anything
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Thanks nev,

Are you sure the father is cobalt? or sky blue with 1 Violet factor?
If he's not, why the chicks have 1 dark factor (the mother is light green)
If he's really cobalt or sky blue violet, i have to see for bying glasses
Here are news pictures of him

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He doesn't look cobalt in the new picture. One of the parents must have a dark factor to produce those chicks. I see there are 2 boxes in the cage, you're not colony breeding are you?
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Hello,

When you said "colony breeding" , you mean when there are several couple in a cage?
Then yes, I have 2 couple in the same cage.
Can a hen be inseminate by 2 or more cocks(like the cats)?
Because i don't understand how can i have these two dark chicks with a light green and a sky blue?
In this cage I have 2 another cocks , You've seen the picture upper , a Grey cock and the Mother's brother.
Thanks for answering you're the one!

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yes a female can father babies from 2 different males

plus when colony breeding you can never be 100% sure the "Father" is the actual father even if you see them mate, it doesn't mean anything, the other male could very well of mated with the hen

Hens can hold sperm for up to 10 days I think (might be less or more) So its very easy for one male to mate with a female with out your knowledge then pair up with a different male, and end up with babies from the 1st male


also colony breeding isn't advised because hens will fight over nest box, other pairs will kill a different pairs chicks, or break their eggs

when people do colony breed they do put up 2 nest boxes per pair all at the same height, to try and deter any fighting, or kicking the original pair from the nest box they chose

it is more accurate to pull the pair that your wanting to breed and put them in a breeding cage on their own, also less dangerous for all birds involved

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Hello,

When you said "colony breeding" , you mean when there are several couple in a cage?
Then yes, I have 2 couple in the same cage.
Can a hen be inseminate by 2 or more cocks(like the cats)?
Because i don't understand how can i have these two dark chicks with a light green and a sky blue?
In this cage I have 2 another cocks , You've seen the picture upper , a Grey cock and the Mother's brother.
Thanks for answering you're the one!
Hen budgies will mate mate with other cock birds so if other birds are in the same cage you can never be sure which bird is the father. A light green and a sky blue paired together can't produce chicks with any dark factor
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Ok ! thank you both !
Also , I can't be really sure of their mutation
I've to stop colony breeding... I didn't realize that was
I just can say that the two chicks (if they 're dark green) cannot come from the sky blue opaline cock and the light green hen for sure , but the another cocks one is grey (but i don't know if he has a DF) and the other is the mother's brother who seems to be light green?
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