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Old 05-31-2016, 09:20 AM
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Hi Everyone!

Now that Ruby and Starlette's chicks are all feathered up, I have a few questions regarding dark factors.

Both Chicks have beautiful Olive green on their tummies and rumps.




We've determined that Ruby is masking Rec. Pied. And seeing these chicks make me believe she is also masking one or two dark factors.

However, to get Olive chicks, BOTH parents would have to have at least one Dark factor, correct?
To my eye, Starlette does not appear to have any dark factors.



And with that being said, I found an old picture of him at the breeders. The chick next to him could be a clutch mate (not 100% sure) and that chick clearly does have a dark factor.




So what are your thoughts? Are the chicks Olive, with both parents having at least one dark factor?
Or do you see them as dark green, with Ruby being the one masking the Dark factor(s)?

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Yes, from the photos your chicks are definitely olive green in colour and so is the chick standing next to your Starlette on the last photo.

You can have chicks with two dark factors (olive in green series, mauve in blue series), by having a pairing of two medium coloured budgies that have one dark factor each (two dark greens or 2 cobalt blue budgies).
Another possibility is by having one parent olive green or mauve (two dark factors) in colour and the other parent having one dark factor (dark green/cobalt blue).

If all chicks are olive green in colour and this is proved later on with more clutches, then you will know that both parents have two dark factors each, meaning your Ruby is masking olive green and Starlette is mauve.
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Thank you for those Absolutely Gorgeous Drooly Photos

The matter of the dark matter is just fascinating to read.

Unfortunately It flies straight over my still-ignorant head.
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all I can say is wow. They are so incredibly beautiful indeed.I just love there unique color pattern .
Thanks so much for sharing your photos.blessings always and congratulations on your budgies.
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They are beautiful, Michelle!

Ana has given a very thorough explanation of dark factors so I will just say I agree with her completely
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Is Starlette grey? His sibling looks to be Grey Green rather than Olive to me, which could mean your babies are Grey Green rather than Olive. This would mean the dark factors are irrelevant to the colouring.....they are very pretty!
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Actually, yes! He is grey! Here are some pics to judge for yourself. Taken this morning, in natural light.
(The red on his beak is from the red vitamin block, nothing to worry about!)







This one is in direct sunlight.

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Parents and babies are gorgeous!
I love the dark olive green color the babies have. They're beautiful!
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Here is a pic that shows the cheek patch, it's not a deep violet colour that you would expect with a dark factor bird.....but then again, just to throw a wrench into it all, the Rec. Pied gene could also be making the cheek patch lighter.

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From the latest development with Starlette, I agree that they're definitely grey green--the tail feathers not affected by the rec. pied gene are black, and their silvery blue cheek patches indicate a grey factor.

I love grey-greens!
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