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Do any of y'all have a torquoise budgie. There is a breeder in New Jersey that has a 4 week old budgie that he says is torquoise but I have never heard of that color. Thanks

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Hi there

I've moved your thread to the Mutations and Genetics section, where it's most appropriate.

Now, to answer your question, yes, there is such a thing as a turquoise budgie. However, it's not an actual "colour", such as cobalt budgies or light green budgies, but rather it is the result of a rather lovely mutation that occurs with sky blue budgies.

By the way, blue budgies have three colours--sky blue, cobalt, and mauve, in order from lightest to darkest.

The yellowface II gene, when present, causes the face of a blue budgie to be yellow, and the yellow colour suffuses into the body feathers, making the budgie an iridescent shade of turquoise that, to me, is one of the prettiest ever

My own little girl has this mutation, sky blue yellowface II, and thus she could be considered to be "turquoise". However, most experienced breeders refer to the colour by the proper mutation name

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As mentioned already, turquoise is a description of the colour, not the name of an actual colour form. It is usually used to describe the look of a Skyblue Yellow Face. I have seen some breeders with the most fantastical names made up to make their common variety budgies sound special, and other times they just don't know enough to use the correct name.
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I had one to. I had Buster for 6 and a half years. He had a funny foot he was disabled but we treated him like a normal budgie and he did everything he was very clever and he also talked really well...Turquoise is like a Jade color so my Breeder told me. Buster was Beautiful....Buster was a Yellow faced Jade.. This was my Beautiful Buster.

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Star has explained the coloring attributes of the particular mutation some people refer to as "turquoise" quite well.

I agree with tonic that many breeders seem to make up names trying to make common variety budgies sound special, and other times they just don't know enough to use the correct name.

Skyblue YellowFaced Type II budgies are one of my favorite mutations.
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Budgie breeders who belong to either ABS or BAA, the two recognized national organizations that show English budgies in the US, use the word Sky as the general base classifacation for budgies that most of us think of as turquoise .
I found out early on not to fight the system and just memorize the word SKY.

The US standard is based on the standard used across the globe.
The last edition was published in 2012 by The WBO and may still be available through The U S organizations.
The last price I remember was around $12.00 US .
This is both a color and written description of the recognized stable mutations across the globe and is the standard used on the show bench.
Breeders of Americans and English that do not belong to these organizations often put their own names out for customers to identify a budgie which does not match the standard.

When you breed to a standard, you strive to produce a particular color mutation that is consistent all over the world. Breeders may have side projects mixing to produce non-standard mutations that are not recognized and at best show as an AOV any other variety.

People who seriously show to win use the standardized nomenclature.
Other breeders may try to put impressive names on their budgies to ask a higher price for special birds.

Registered breeders maintain registered stock and may also have stock of one or several new mutations that have not tested to the higher standard. The chicks that are sold at bird fairs are often the breeding stock that do not meet the organization standards. They are perfectly healthy but are often too small or have other faults not desired by the standard.

These birds are often quite lovely and often make wonderful companion birds though are not destined for the show bench. When a buyer approaches a breeder, the buyer should be clear on whether they wand a pet quality bird or a bird that meets show standard. Then the breeder will understand what the buyer is looking for.
When you contract for a budgie with a stated color it may take a while as the suggested percentages of genetic mutations are based on 100 % but budgies usually have no more than 6 clutches before they are retired.
So the possibilities are legion. Most breeders are split for the opposite color so a blue series bird
with a white face could also produce a normal yellow face green series or for example a class II yellow face violet which actually looks like a turquoise on the chest and deep cobalt/violet on the back. You ask where is the violet?
It is in the genetic history maintained bu the breeder. These are birds, that like the rainbow, are not always easy to produce.
It is always good to take an experienced breeder friend to help you chose your birds.
There are little tricks breeders can look for to suggest the heritage of a bird in question and which faults are superficial or important as a pet or as a show breeder.

We like to feel like breeders are honest , but the truth is "buyer beware".
Always check the leg band. Never buy a bird with any band date other than the current year or the just previous year unless you are looking for an older bird. which would have a 3rd year or older leg band.
Breeder leg bands have a lot of info that identifies the characteristics of the bird and may also return a lost bird.
Leg bands can also cause injury to the leg and need to be monitored for problems.

Best luck in finding your special baby, Jo Ann
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Some of our very best folk's have weighed in on this, and of course, like a lot of thing's there are many description's/titles applicable.

For me it goes like this....Skyblue + Yellowface = "Seafoam"....

Whatever you decide to call it, congrat's, you have a very pretty bird...
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I talked to the breeder today and he said this bird will have a white face. The birds feathers are sea foam or torquoise like some of the yellow faced birds. Could this be because the bird is only 4weeks old and his color will change as he gets older?
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After the first/ baby molt the base colors will become darker.and the bird ages
as an adult. Some birds like pieds will continually change the color/pattern
in tail and flights. Sometimes it is a fault depending on which mutation is involved.A healthy happy budgie is the important issue. Enjoy, Jo Ann
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In some sky blue birds, the feathers have more of a turquoise sheen, although they can't ever be the same colour as the feathers of a yellowface II bird as there is a yellow colour to the blue missing that would make it more greenish.

So it is possible to have a sky blue budgie (which is what the breeder is saying is "turquoise") with a little bit of a different colour, closer to turquoise. The bird sounds beautiful!

We'd love to see pictures if you have any
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