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albino, lutino, and ino... could someone help me to understant these three muations.. specially the 'ino'.. wats the difference in appearence and how do their genetics work? would b helpful if someone got pics to show..

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Albino is an all white bird with no markings and red eyes. A lutino is an all yellow bird with no markings and red eyes. Both only show their base color. Ino is a short term for either. There is also a creamino which is pale creamy yellow. I can't remember which parent carries the gene or if both need too. They are not rare although I have read the male albino's are harder to find.

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Here is picture of my Lutino female, Soula



You can see that she has absolutely no markings, red eyes and white cheek patches. Some lutinos will have white-ish flight feathers.

Dark Eyed Clears often get mistaken for Albinos and Lutinos. Dark Eyed Clears can be completely white, completely yellow, or a combination of both (Creamino) but they will have dark eyes, not red.
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so my Garry is a Dark Eyed Clear ...



but Nev said that because he has small brush strokes of blue on him (you can see the blue near his feet) that hes a Double Factor Spangle?....

this is all so confusing for me

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Sorry, I didn't clarify Dark Eyed Clears too much

Dark Eyed Clears have dark eyes with no iris. Just liked Pieds, their eyes will never form an iris and just stay completely dark.

Bug, yes, you little guy is a Double Spangle. Double Spangles will form iris's
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ahh i see!!!..so they have like..permanent baby eyes ... ok.. im less confused now..

so my Garry would have had an all black iris when he was a few months old and started to get the ring as he got older?...
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ahh i see!!!..so they have like..permanent baby eyes ... ok.. im less confused now..

so my Garry would have had an all black iris when he was a few months old and started to get the ring as he got older?...
It is just like you first stated. Permanent baby eyes no matter what the age. If Garry was a Dark eyed clear he would have no coloring anywhere and the eyes never get irises. So his eyes would have stayed completely black forever.

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For most mutations, the babies have completely dark eyes and as they grow older, their iris's will start to form.

For Recesivve Pieds, Inos and Dark Eyed Clears, the iris never form.
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It is just like you first stated. Permanent baby eyes no matter what the age. If Garry was a Dark eyed clear he would have no coloring anywhere and the eyes never get irises. So his eyes would have stayed completely black forever.

P.S. Garry is stunning
thanks a bunch .. hmm so then my Garry is prolly a year or so now.. considering he has irises but they are not really prominant yet.. they are still fairly black but have a light ring around them.. in that pic i used flash so his pupil contracted.. so now i know.. my Boy Garry is about a year or so and Goliath is 2.. yay!!
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albino, lutino, and ino... could someone help me to understant these three muations.. specially the 'ino'.. wats the difference in appearence and how do their genetics work? would b helpful if someone got pics to show..

thnx..
They are all the same mutation. Ino is a term for the mutation that includes albino, lutino and creamino.

Albino is the blue form of the ino mutation (white)
Lutino is the green form (yellow)
Creamino is the yellow face albino form of the mutation

Ino is a sex-linked mutation, which means that the mutation can only be carried in a split form by a male and if a female is not a visual ino she can't carry the gene. I won't try and confuse you by quoting X & Y chromosomes

A pair or inos will produce 100% ino chicks

An ino cock mated to a normal hen will produce all female inos and normal males that are split for ino

An ino hen mated to a normal cock will produce all normal females and normal males that are split for ino

A normal cock that is split for ino mated to a normal hen will produce ino females, normal females, normal males that are split for ino and normal males that are not split for ino
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