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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Hello, It has been a long time since I have stopped buy here in a long time. I had decided to re-home most of my birds as my life was going through some changes. I kept my two favorites and now have more time and room. I put up a nest box about a month ago and now have 6 chicks growing strong and healthy. I still can not tell the colors yet but and so curious as I am not sure what color the parents are really mixed up about the hen. Here are two photos I took today. If you have any ideas that would be great and just for fun if you want to guess chick colors should have that information soon,

Thank you, John

Wow been trying to get a better pic and they finally cooperated at bit for me.

you can see the hen has grey on sides and then the beautiful blue above her tail. she also has light violet/purple cheek patches.
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Old 08-10-2016, 05:15 PM
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Welcome back to the forums and congratulations on your chicks!

Your female is a sky blue yellow face type II recessive pied, possibly cinnamon budgie.
Your male is a dominant pied clearwing budgie.

Both of the parents are blue series budgies and so will the chicks. Depending on the blue colour masked by the father, you can get sky blue or cobalt blue chicks, you can also get grey chicks. All of your chicks will be split (carrying the gene in hidden form) for recessive pied and your male chicks will be split for cinnamon. If the father proves to be dominant pied, then you can get some dominant pied and some normal chicks.
You may have some other surprises depending on what genes both parents may be hiding.

Best of luck with your little budgie family!

From your latest photo, I'm noticing the colour on your female is darker than sky blue, she looks almost the same colour as her mate.
By looking at her cheek patches, she doesn't look grey to me. She could be cobalt violet in colour. From the pictures I'm unable to be certain.
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Thank you so much people that understand genetics amaze me.

Here is a pic of dads chest he also has solid white wings.

These two are my special birds Dad I hand fed and he comes out to hang out with me all the time he is so sweet.

Mom is so pretty and has a special place in my heart she was in a cage with some other hens and one day they attacked her and when I found her she was in real bad shape, I was so upset. I babied her for months and now she has a bit of a crooked leg but she is very sweet too.

They have a huge cage and are so sweet together and are the perfect parents so excited to see how the little ones turn out.

Thanks again, John
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I don't know anything about genetics but I just wanted to say your male is absolutely beautiful! clearwings are so so pretty
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Thank you he is a sweetheart too.

The image in your post looks a lot like my hen mine not as blue on chest and spots on wings more light brown color.
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John, what beautiful parents!

I'm so glad the mum was okay and she really is stunning. Aluz has given a great assessment of their exact mutations

I look forward to seeing the chicks, it will be a beautiful clutch!
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I don't think the male is a clearwing . Clearwings usually have very light markings on their wings , normal body colour and dark blue cheek patches. From the photos, the wing markings look quite black without any dilution.

He looks more like a Normal Grey Dominant Pied.
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I think clearwing was a typo, he is a Dominant Pied.
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I agree with you both, I didn't even notice that typo! Yes, he is a normal grey dominant pied
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While I was composing the somewhat longer post, with the pictures provided, I was unable to see if the male was really a dominant pied (couldn't see tummy area). After posting I realized John had posted another photo which removed the doubts. While editing my post with the latest developments, I didn't remove the clearwing mention which I meant clearflight pied at first.
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