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Old 10-03-2016, 08:48 AM
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Hi Everyone!

Just thought I'd introduce myself. I am a student who currently owns 4 budgies - 2 of which have hatched in the last few weeks

Right, so moving on to genetics.

Here is muma andfather. Mum (i'm thinking) is sky blue spangle opaline, maybe single factor violet? Not too sure.

Dad is actually a bush budgie- he's for sure normal green.

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Right. So, my confusion is here. First baby is for sure albino (White). But the second one? Not so sure. Here he/she is. Would you be able to help me out?

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Please, please help me out. The baby has grey down, does that mean Opaline is ruled out?

Thanks so much in advance-

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Welcome to the forums!

You are correct on the parent's colour mutations.
As for this chick, from the picture it seems the pins on the tips of the wings are white in colour and if that is the case, then this chick is blue series.
I also agree that the chick is likely a normal budgie and will take after its father, only the base colour will be sky blue.

If you haven't done so already, please replace the rope perch for a new one, since the one the parents are in is already quite frayed. This is done for overall safety measures, to prevent a toenail from being caught on the fabric.
If your budgies happen to chew on the rope perch, then it's best to replace it for a different type of perch because the ingestion of the fibres can lead to serious health problems (crop impaction).
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Thanks for the tip and quick reply. I'll be posting a more recent photo in the morning to check. As of now, I can see white tips with almost black underneath. Is there any chance of spangle showing?

I'll get rid of the rope perch soon, had no idea it caused any problems with them. Also, Bluebelle is the mum, and DJ is the father. They were just companion birds until one day, boom, we had an egg! Very strange for this to be possible, as DJ is going on 9 years of age. He's coping pretty well as of yet, I was worried he'd strain a bit with his age and having to feed 4 birds.

Also, is spangle opaline rare? Just wondering.

Thanks for helping out-

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It's not at all advisable to breed from budgies not older than 4 years old.
After this round, it really is best for you to take strict measures to prevent further breeding behaviour from your pair.
This link has all the detailed information: https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...want-eggs.html

No, spangle opaline is not considered to be rare.
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I agree with Aluz, the second baby is likely to be a Normal, like the Dad, but likely blue. The body colour will be more obvious as the feathers grow out.
When you say the Dad is a bush budgie, do you mean he was wild? Or do you just mean is is the colour of the wild type budgies?

9 is very old for a budgie to be breeding, you were right to be concerned that he would be unable to cope but hopefully he will be able to complete the job without any detriment to himself or the family. I would suggest preparing now to prevent the hen from laying and starting a second clutch.

Enjoy watching your babies grow, it is a special time!
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DJ was literally plucked out of a nest as a chick- he has always been tame and not shown any signs of his upbringing.

I do not support the way he was plucked out, but he was a present. I understand how and when to breed budgies, I also know it is not optimal to breed them at this age. This is their first and last clutch. I am changing the rope perch as soon as possible.

Both birds are vet checked every 6 months and both have been clear for two years. I know the risk involved in breeding budgies this old, but DJ is doing well, as well as Blue. Blue is only around 2 years old.

Sorry to misinform you on how these two came to breed. Both are strongly bonded and it was only time before they decided to raise a clutch together.

They have access to egg & biscuit pellets, cuttlebone, fresh veggies daily, english millet and budgie seed. I also clean the box every 2 days to make sure babies are healthy and well.
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Hi there and to the forums!

I'm glad you're aware of everything as you embark on this breeding pair, it's always lovely to hear from people who are very prepared! Although DJ's circumstances are not ideal, it sounds like he's doing well with you

It's good to hear that all is well so far and I look forward to hearing all about their chicks!

If you have any questions after taking a look around the forums, please do ask as we'd love to help.

In the meantime, I hope to hear an update soon!
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Thank you for your help, all.

Here is a later photo. Is there any chance of violet?

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It is hard to tell if the mum has violet from the picture shown. If she does have it then a chick may also, if not then it won't. You will have to wait for a decent amount of body feather to appear before knowing if violet is present.
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