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Old 10-07-2016, 10:05 PM
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Wanted to share and get some info! I came across this budgie in a pet store and was baffled. I love the albino/ino mutations, but I've never seen one patterned like this. It had the red eyes and everything. A lot of its cage mates were lutinos and albinos. I wasn't sure if this was some sort of lutino that was pied, but I had a hard time finding information that led to a solid answer.
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That is unique! I would think that it is some sort of fault in the gene that removes the yellow rather than it being a pied.
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That is quite an unusual colour!
Was this budgie all white with the exception of those splotches of rich yellow colour?
The Ino gene will mask (hid) the pied gene, so this budgie girl can't be a visual pied alongside with visual Ino.

Looking at the photo, I do believe the budgie is albino and unless those feathers have been somehow dyed yellow, then she could be a single factor golden face albino.
But it's still very strange for the yellow colour to be present only on those spots and not on the head/face areas.
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Lutino and albino occur independently of each other because they both are a base colour present after no melanin or other pigments are on top of the base colours; therefore lutino budgies are "albino" green budgies and albinos are blue budgies with the gene.

Therefore, I would agree with Aluz that the only way this could happen if there was a goldenfaced budgie. Since she has red eyes, perhaps she is some sort of dilute/spangle/opaline/cinnamon/sf dominant pied/sf golden face variety?

However, I rather doubt that since golden face, by nature, begins in the face, and the fact that her face has no yellow is quite puzzling

The reason the initial mutations occurred is because of an error in the gene during cell division, which is quite common and can be bred into a species, like the mutations we have now. It is possible this is some manner of incomplete gene that may cause this.

Are you sure the feathers were not dyed?
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Occasionally you can get blue budgies where the gene to remove yellow has failed in the occasional feather, or group of feathers. The opposite can cause blue patches in green birds. If this happened in an albino you would be left with some yellow feathers. I think that may be more likely than any yf variety as it is in an odd place.

Or it could just be some dye!
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Intersting, Toni, I wasn't aware that that was a more common occurrence.

In that case than I agree that it definitely is more likely as YF is only on the body if it's on the face, too.
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This mutation discussion sure is intersting! Such a beautiful bird too.
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