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Default Is it possible for an adult gray normal budgie to have dark eyes with no iris ring?

I know dark-eyed clears have no iris rings. (And there may be others, I haven't researched this a lot yet.)

I saw pictures of an adult budgie -- gray with normal markings (are gray budgies referred to as mauve?) ... and his eyes had no iris rings. They were solid dark black.

Is this very common? I thought all normals had iris rings. Any thoughts on what causes this?

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The iris development or lack of thereof will depend on a given budgie's genes.
Budgies with recessive pied heritage (hiding the recessive pied gene) may have little to no iris development and that's why some adult normal budgies will keep the fully black eyes.

Mauve is the darkest shade of colour on white based, blue series budgies.
Grey works differently because it's a colour adding factor and it can be present in both blue series and green series budgies.
There are ways to distinguish mauve from grey by looking at the overall colour on the plumage, as well as the cheek patches and the tail feathers.
You can check this link: https://www.cutelittlebirdiesaviary.c...-and-grey.html
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Great... thanks Aluz! I really like the normal budgies with black eyes and no iris, but I think it would probably be fairly difficult to attempt to obtain one. Would a breeder know which ones would turn out that way? Or is it too difficult to determine...

Thanks for the info re. Gray & Mauve. I'll check that out.

(*attached is the budgie I was asking about. For some reason I keep being drawn to gray budgies.)
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You're very welcome.

It's difficult to predict whether a normal budgie hiding the recessive pied gene will develop irises or not.
And the surest way would really be by getting an adult of 1+ years with fully black eyes.
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That makes a lot of sense re. getting an adult with black eyes. Thx...!
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My Oscar has the dark eye with normal coloring. Her mom was a recessive pied. Her dad 'looked' normal, but had no iris ring either, so he must have carried the rec. pied gene, too. All this hereditary stuff is both complicated and fascinating, isn't it?
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My Oscar has the dark eye with normal coloring. Her mom was a recessive pied. Her dad 'looked' normal, but had no iris ring either, so he must have carried the rec. pied gene, too. All this hereditary stuff is both complicated and fascinating, isn't it?

Totally! Absolutely fascinating.
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