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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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CW or FBG??
Will anybody tell me how to distinguish between FBG n CW??
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Budgies 1 and 3 are full body greywing, and Budgie 2 is clearwing

The easiest way to distinguish between them is to look at the colour of the wing feathers, especially the primaries, and the tail feathers.

If they are grey, then the bird is greywing (either FBG or just regular) and if they are a clear white, then the bird is clearwing. Also, if there are colours on the wings (esp. in opaline and spangle opaline birds), they will look more "grey" than in clearwings.

It can be very difficult to tell them apart in many cases, especially when there are a lot of other mutations in the wings and feathers causing opaline, pied markings, etc. This is partly due to the fact that FBG is caused by a co-dominant mutation between the gene for clearwing and the gene for greywing. Therefore, if a bird gets one gene for clearwing and one for greywing, they will be full body greywing. Because of this, the feather colour (grey vs. white) can sometimes be very relative and vary widely in budgies.

Lineage is the most foolproof way to determine mutation, but when lineage is not known, a very good guess can be made based on feather colour
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thanks a lot ,StarlingWings, you are so helpful and professional。
Can i ask you a question more?
If i mate 3 with this dilute (is she a dilute?),will i have a opportunity to get a FBG rainbow babies??
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No, you cannot get full body greywing rainbow chicks; to do so, you would have to have one parent either split or visually clearwing and the other either split or visually greywing; FBG is caused by the co-dominance of clearwing and greywing. Because the mother is dilute, and dilute is recessive to everything, she only has two dilute genes so all babies will be split dilute. However, you can get rainbow babies. Clearwing rather than FBG is also considered a "rainbow" mutation.

Their babies would be skyblue, yellowface II, and opaline, which already is most of the rainbow mutation.

The possible outcomes are as follows:

Sky blue, yf II, opaline, greywing /dilute--visually greywing (50%)
Sky blue, yf II, opaline, clearwing /dilute--visually clearwing and therefore rainbow (50%)

Dilute is recessive to both greywing and clearwing. Greywing and clearwing are both recessive to wild-type (normal) but dominant over dilute, so although all chicks will be /dilute, they will show visually either greywing or clearwing due to the father being full body greywing.

Have you bred budgies before?
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Your rainbows are strikingly beautiful! The clearwing is amazing
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thanks to StarlingWings. yes i had bred budgies,but do not know much about the FGB gene。thanks your help, it is important to me.

thanks to RavensGryf ,i am so lucky to own this beautiful clearwing!!

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thanks to StarlingWings. yes i had bred budgies,but do not know much about the FGB gene。thanks your help, it is important to me.
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