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Old 01-04-2017, 04:03 AM
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Hello! I've gotten my two birds in July last year and I've always been curious about their exact age and mutation. Of course, I do know they are both females. (sorry I didnt know which forum to put this in )
I believe that Jaeha (green) is older than Yuuki and she (Jaeha) would maybe be 8 months? (I'm not an expert but I found a chart on telling age by irises) and maybe Yuuki 5-6-ish months?
I know that the mutations of my budgies are the common types but I'm still curious on what they would be called. XD

Only today I have just noticed that Yuuki's eyes has a dark grey iris.
I've never seen one on her eyes but I guess while I was taking close up photos, I looked really closely and there was. Sorry if you can't see it in the pic, you just have to look really closely ^^;;

Thank you so much!

This is the chart I found online.

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This is how they looked like when I first got them in July last year (a day or two when they arrived home).
The blue one is Yuuki, the green one is Jaeha.
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From looking at the baby pics, your Yuuki was in the process of having her first moult, while Jaeha didn't yet show signs of moulting and due to that I'd say that Yuuki is slightly older. You can see that by looking at Yuuki's one big throat spot and the pinnies on her forehead.
Since you got them in July of 2016, I'd say they were both hatched in Spring of that year. By the time you got them Yuuki must have been about 3 and half months old and Jaeha must have been fresh from turning 3 months old.

For the age they have now, their irises should have been a lot more developed and most likely this is due to the fact that they both have recessive pied heritage.

Your Yuuki is a sky blue dominant pied opaline budgie.
Jaeha is a light green opaline budgie.
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I would have said that Yuuki is a heavily marked recessive pied.
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From looking at the baby pics, your Yuuki was in the process of having her first moult, while Jaeha didn't yet show signs of moulting and due to that I'd say that Yuuki is slightly older. You can see that by looking at Yuuki's one big throat spot and the pinnies on her forehead.
Since you got them in July of 2016, I'd say they were both hatched in Spring of that year. By the time you got them Yuuki must have been about 3 and half months old and Jaeha must have been fresh from turning 3 months old.

For the age they have now, their irises should have been a lot more developed and most likely this is due to the fact that they both have recessive pied heritage.

Your Yuuki is a sky blue dominant pied opaline budgie.
Jaeha is a light green opaline budgie.
Ahh I see. I guess I was off the mark by a lot and have much to learn. All this time I thought Jaeha was older.. oopsie daisy, >< hehe.
So does that mean another way to identify the ages of budgies would be to look at the throat spots -budgies with bigger/darker throat spots tend to be older?

That's so cool how you can guess when they were born. That's amazing
Spring where I live is in Sep, Oct, Nov so since you said that Yuuki is 3 months and a half old (from when I got her- I got her July 14th) I guesstimated when her birthday would be and it's April 1 (or around April 1 ^^:. And since you said that Jaeha would be 3 months old (I got her July 15th), with the help of my friend, she said she'd be born around April 16th.

I tried finding out what age they would be now (5th Jan 2017) but I'm horrible with maths. >< My friend says Yuuki would be 7 months and 1 day old but not sure about Jaeha??

Will their irises remain the same? I saw on a website that to identify a recessive pied, they tend to have dark irises/eyes. Will they develop more (lighter) like other budgies' eyes or would it remain the same? Sorry for the questions. It's just really interesting!

Thank you so much!
You have helped HEAPS! Thank you! The budgie mutations names really intrigues me a lot for some reason. it sounds so cool hehe.
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:06 AM
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I would have said that Yuuki is a heavily marked recessive pied.
To me, the markings on the wings look too normal for a recessive pied.
The wing markings on recessive pied budgies aren't as defined, they have more of a faded look to them, a grizzled effect.

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the irises on recessive pieds will not suffer any changes, they will remain dark in colour and only under a certain lighting will we be able to spot them.
If it's easier, you can choose two random dates in April, most likely that was the month your budgies have hatched.
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To me, the markings on the wings look too normal for a recessive pied.
The wing markings on recessive pied budgies aren't as defined, they have more of a faded look to them, a grizzled effect.
That is usually the case but I have seen (and in the past bred) some recessive pied hens with pretty much normal markings like this. I have never seen it on males though, any chicks I had with that much marking were always hens.

Pieds have such variation it is not uncommon for us to have to pretty much guess though!
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