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Hi. I need a little help to identify these mutations. I think I know, but..



Recessive Pied? What color would you call him?



Opaline texas clearbody?

Sorry no back picture of this young guy.

Yellowface type 2, sky blue opaline?

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The budgie on the first two pics I think is a cobalt violet opaline recessive pied.
I think you are correct on the second budgie's mutation.
Your 3rd budgie is a sky blue violet single factor golden face opaline and very possibly spangle too. A photo of the wings would be very helpful, I think he is a spangle due to the partially white cheek patches.
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They are beautiful!

Do you have a closer picture of the face of the first recessive pied? I can't tell if the striping is faded or normal. Either way, cobalt double factor violet recessive pied is true, possible opaline

For the second one, I would say olive green opaline texas clear body, and I agree with Aluz on the mutation on the last one! Spangle is very likely.

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I can't find a better face picture of the recessive pied. He feathered out of the box looking exactly as he does now. He's about 6 months old now. He had a little striping around his eyes but not much at all. From a distance he gives the appearance of having black eyes and my husband finds that funny. (his name is black eye)

Yah, goldenface! I only had yellow face type 1 and 2 as parent birds(and grandparents) so I was not expecting goldenfaces. My birds have thrown a ton of yellow face types and I have gotten this little guys parents confused with my other birds.

I agree that Bumblebee is most likely olive. Her mother was pale grey TCB.

Thanks for the help!!

(sorry about the poo ledge in the pics. We were waiting on our aviary cleaner to show up, it got lost in the post )
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If Bumblebees mum was a grey then she is most likely a grey green. You can tell by checking if the tail is black (meaning she is grey green) or blue (meaning she is olive) though, it does look a bit blue in the photos.

Also, golden face is a different variety from yf1 and yf2, so you can only breed one if you have a gf parent. It is likely that one of the parents is gf, or the baby must be a yf2 or a combination of yf2 and 1. Photos can alter the strength of colours so we can only guess according to what we can see.
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