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Old 02-12-2017, 11:15 PM
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Is this little girl (she is a girl, right?) a pied as well? Her brothers are very clearly dominant spangle pieds, and she has the pied patch, but her wing pattern seems quite different.





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It's possible she's a poorly marked dominant pied. I would say that she looks like a clearflight pied, but if all her brothers are definite dominant pieds it's completely possible she is as well. I can't tell from the pictures if she is indeed a girl or not, but it does look like her cere has white circles around the nostrils She is adorable by the way!
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Can a clearflight pied be bred from a recessive pied and a dominant pied? I'm not sure how they come about.

She has no pied markings on her front, as you can see, which is different than her parents and clutchmates, and her wing pattern is not the same at all, but I wasn't sure if she might be a dominant pied without her father's spangle gene.

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I would agree that since the other siblings and parents are dominant pied, this chick is also dominant pied, although she has clear flight feathers.

From my understanding, clearflight pied is a separate mutation, just like dominant or recessive pied, and isn't a combination mutation of any sort.

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Thanks! I was not thinking she was clearflight, as I have never even seen one of those and think they are pretty rare. But I had read that you can get a budgie split for recessive that would only show the pied spot on it's head and retain all its body color. Is that not possible from the pairing of a dominant to a recessive pied?
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All the chicks from that pair will be split for recessive pied as they all received one recessive pied gene from their mother. They are all also dominant pied and the others have spangle but the chick in question is not spangle, just dominant pied/recessive pied.
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