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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Old 11-10-2017, 07:55 PM
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Default Seems as if I got a new pair today! What are their mutations?

Hey guys! So today I went out and ended up purchasing a new pair from a store near me. I'll admit it was a bit of an impulse but I do have the means and the space and a small quarantine cage already set up at home soo...

Meet my new pair! I haven't yet named them, so I'd love any name ideas!

I believe my male is a dark green spangle dominant pied.

My female is a bit more of a challenge for me. I believe shes a YF type 1 maybe mauve or cobalt greywing recessive pied? Please let me know if I'm correct!











EDIT: the pictures aren't showing up for me so here's a link to the album https://imgur.com/a/dRczI

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They're absolutely beautiful, Emily!

The hen is mauve, opaline, cinnamon, yellowface recessive pied and the male is dark green, spangle, SF dominant pied and maybe greywing.

To me they look like "Ismira" or "Stella" for the hen and "Brisbane" or "Theodore" for the male
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Thank you!! I'll try and get some pictures in better lighting later today, but are you sure that the hen is cinnamon? Her markings are showing up more of a grey than a brown color. Is it possible for the cinnamon markings to be tinted more grey than brown?

EDIT: Also could you help me speculate the potential chick outcomes for if I were to pair them together? Like my other pair, it won't be until at least next August.
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It could be the lightning that's making her markings look browner than they are! More pictures would be helpful

If she's cinnamon, all male chicks will be split for cinnamon. If she's greywing, all chicks will be split for greywing. All male chicks will be split for opaline. All chicks will be green unless the male is split for blue. If he is, half will be blue and half of the blues will be yellowface. Half all chicks will be dominant pied, all chicks will be split for recessive pied, and finally, half the chicks will be spangle.
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I can see how they would be hard to resist! Congratulations! They are beautiful!
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Thank you! I'll post more pictures when I get home from work, in the meantime would you mind explaining the concept of combination pied to me? I've seen it referenced before but I don't know exactly what it means. I wondered if their chicks could be combo pied since one is red pied and one is dom?
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Your girl is adorable. I'd have had a hard time resisting her if I'd seen her in my pet shop.
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Emily,

Combinait pied occurs when a chick inherits the "visual" form of recessive pied (meaning two copies of the gene--one from Mum and one from Dad) and at least one dominant pied gene (dominant pied is dominant so only needs one copy of the gene to be visually expressed).

If the male happens to be split for recessive pied it could be possible to get combination pied chicks, you will only know he's split for recessive pied if they have recessive pied chicks (the mother would give all chicks one recessive pied gene and the father (if he were split) would contribute the other one). If you do get recessive pied chicks, it's possible to have a combination pied.

Does that make sense?
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It does make sense, thank you! And I'll actually post pictures today. Had some personall stuff get in the way yesterday.
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