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Old 11-30-2017, 01:18 AM
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Just brought this guy home tonight (I'm hoping it's a male). The cere is bright pink and his overall colours seem dilute. Don't know the age but he does look pretty small. I thought the wing stripes were more grey at first, but in "researching" he might be a darker cinnamon because of the pink cere. His face is alot more yellow than the pics show so I probably will have to take better lighted pics. And the body colour doesn't look like just a dilute sky blue IMO but maybe violet-ish? And yellow face 1? Or goldenface?
Not sure if these pics will be clear enough please let me know. It's hard to get the right light and focus when a bird is on your hand lol the box was with flash(oops!) But it shows the markings and tail colours better than the others.
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Old 11-30-2017, 08:54 AM
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Gorgeous little budgie. I can't help with the mutations and it's hard to see his head barring but he looks like he might be around 3-5 months old. And yes he is a male.

Since you just brought him home tonight I recommend you leave him in his cage and don't handle him as he needs time to settle into his new home. Handling and taming shouldn't begin until the budgie has been in his new home for at least 2 weeks.
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Gorgeous little budgie. I can't help with the mutations and it's hard to see his head barring but he looks like he might be around 3-5 months old. And yes he is a male.

Since you just brought him home tonight I recommend you leave him in his cage and don't handle him as he needs time to settle into his new home. Handling and taming shouldn't begin until the budgie has been in his new home for at least 2 weeks.
Glad to know he's a boy! The girls at the pet store only knew about blue being males and I had to tell them that some mutations males aren't blue. And of course they don't know their ages. There was a solid yellow (DEC?) I really wanted but it was a female. My females are more cheepy and my male is so talkative and flirty and his cagemate doesn't reciprocate. I'm hoping to pair this guy with my male or his female if he ends up being less pushy.
I've never been sure about how close the bars are suppose to be when it says "to the cere" since some pictures say they're young but the bars don't look like they go that far IMO. I was never sure about my recessive pied cause hers show up dark on her white head and seemed to go pretty far forward. I'll definitely try to get a clear view of his bars as well as his colours.


Also I was "handling" him to take him from the box to his temporary cage. All I did was hold him up for a couple minutes since he didn't freak out so I took advantage of that and took as good of pictures as I could in case he doesn't let me again. I've also seen some reputable bird trainers that intentionally start taming immediately so I'm not too concerned about that.





**Want to note before anyone "peeps"(lol?) up about it, that: Yes I have enough cages in case it doesn't work out; and Yes I'm aware of the "dangers" that come with male female pairings.

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Young males have ceres that are that color
Can't help with the mutation I'm afraid
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Young males have ceres that are that color
Can't help with the mutation I'm afraid
In more researching I did come across that baby males are pink(most pics were showing older ones or did not say ages so I assumed it was mutation related) but I didn't think he was that young until I noticed the very tip of his beak is dark but not sure if that's baby beak colour or not. But I was 99% sure that pink wasn't female.
I can't believe some of the misinformation I've come across. People very confidently saying boy is blue and girl is pink >.<
All these petland girls knew was blue and there were only a couple that were blue and they weren't colours I liked. I finally decided on this guy and they were half doubting me on it. Gotta love it when you teach pet store employees something new every time you go in.. lol

Still haven't managed to get any clearer pictures, should I post it in a different place once I do? Since this one is titled for cere colour/gender confirmation

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Old 11-30-2017, 08:54 PM
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What a pretty baby. Love those deep blue colors in the tail. And thumbs up on getting a bird that is so comfortable with the human hand! That's half the battle.

I'm curious - did you have him shipped to you, or did you pick him up?
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What a pretty baby. Love those deep blue colors in the tail. And thumbs up on getting a bird that is so comfortable with the human hand! That's half the battle.

I'm curious - did you have him shipped to you, or did you pick him up?
I got him at petland and then had to drive him home little under 2 hours. No pet stores closer with actual animals. I got my creamino and albino from the same place but separate times. The albino stood on my hand at first too but now she "flies" away. Petland does a horrible hack job on their birds wings unfortunatly. I think it could be just that they both know they can't fly so why bother trying? So not nessicarily "comfortable". He seems pretty scared since bringing him home and he's way tinier than I realised at first.
Managed to get better pictures! Had to get my friend to hold a light so I wasn't using flash and freaking the poor guy out that much more. The blue is a little lighter irl but it's very very close. His wings don't look very cinnamony anymore either. The best I could get of his bars and the top of his head is really light and can't see them much irl either. I'm worried he will just be a normal shade of yellow and blue when he's older, just cause that's what drew me to him lol the last pic I found online and the one on the right is the blue shade he looks more but with the left ones face shade..
Should I post the pics in a different place? I'm not familiar with forum protocol lol

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He is beautiful, and is a mauve single factor violet yellowface budgie He's not cinnamon, but is is absolutely gorgeous No matter what he looks like, I'm sure he'll be a wonderful little companion!
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He is beautiful, and is a mauve single factor violet yellowface budgie He's not cinnamon, but is is absolutely gorgeous No matter what he looks like, I'm sure he'll be a wonderful little companion!
Yay he's purple! Lol For some reason I was really hoping he was. I didn't even know about violet and mauve budgies until recently. So his markings are just "normal"?

Can his age be determined from these pics? I think he's quite young and tiny and sadly he does seem pretty scared. Hopefully he just needs to settle

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Yes, his wing markings are "normal". He's between 5 and 8 months of age, I would say. He's a beautiful boy and it's understandable that he's still a little freaked out. I'm sure that he'll start to settle in soon
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