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Not sure if anyone has brought it up before but whats up with the really light purple violet budgies??

Aren't violets a deep blue/purple so what mutation is the really light purple, lilac ish ones? From a google search these lilac birds seem to also be called violets? So is the light purple colour just a trick of the light/photo editing?

Heres an example of what i mean by a "lilac" bird:
https://twitter.com/_akipooh_/status/846339957262233600
https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/471...40046/?lp=true (first one)

It doesn't SEEM to be an edit? The cere colour isn't off...

And heres what I think violets are meant to look:
Violet Spangle Cock ? BirdsBudgies
https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/492...40624/?lp=true (first one)

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Old 06-12-2018, 04:39 AM
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Those are violets but they are also greywings, which reduces whatever body colour there is by about half. The basic body colour is there but another mutation is affecting it.
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Toni is correct She's given great advice. Violet is a colour adding factor (like grey) that can still be affected by dilution mutations like greywing.
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OOOOOoooooh!
Thank you! I was really confused about that colouring! Thanks for clearing that up guys~
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The first image does appear to be a violet greywing (spangle?), since the colours are more "washed out" than usual. The wings of the second bird are clearly black however, which rules out the possibility of greywing explaining the difference you describe. I have a feeling the mutation you're after is just a particularly vibrant expression of the violet gene.

EDIT: Just realised that the third and fourth birds are actually violets without any dark factors, whereas the first and second are both SF dark, oops!
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Huh, dark factors, never heard of that before (learning something new everyday!) I was wondering if it was just another variation of violet but seems like there are many possible causes.
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"Dark factors" in budgies control the body colour.

For example, a sky blue budgie has 0 dark factors (0 and 0 dark factors on both chromosomes), a cobalt budgie has 1 dark factor (0 and 1 dark factor on both chromosomes) and a mauve budgie has 2 dark factors (1 and 1 dark factor on both chromosomes). Violet looks different on all the dark factor variations. On the sky-blue, it makes it look cobalt-ish with a violet tint (strength of violet tint depends on single factor or double factor violet), on cobalt is true "violet" appearance (single factor violet is less purple than double factor), and on mauve it looks like violet-grey (again, more purple appearance with double factor violet).

So the dark factor of the bird, the occurrence of violet (single or double factor) and the mutation all have to do with the shade of violet you're going to see
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