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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Old 07-15-2018, 05:22 PM
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In my budgie browsing i often come across claims of rare budgies. So saw this one and was curious what variety of mutation it is and if it is rare. I asked but they simply said the colour is rare!?!

I'm just curious about these sorts of things and I'll often to google stuff and some are easier to see and others not so much.

I also a little while back saw some really unusual ones in london (nowhere close to me) and they had really black spotted heads! The rest looked mostly normal budgie - green, blue but the heads were black spotted?
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Old 07-15-2018, 05:48 PM
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One more to ask about! This one seems unususl...to me anyway!
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I'm not great with mutations but neither of those look rare to me.

The second one just looks light an English/show budgie but the actual mutation isn't anything special, from what I can tell.

If people are just telling you that this bird is rare and can't give any information other than that, I'd say they are trying to get interest to sell them for a steeper price.

According to Cute Little Birdies Avairy the following mutations are actually rare:
Lacewing
Fallow
Texas Clearbody
Easlay Clearbody
Saddleback
Crested
Slate
Anthracite
Japanese Helicopter
Frosted Pied

I suggest having a look on Google to see what these mutations look like so you can see if these people are selling any 'rare' mutations at all.
For what it's worth, it depends where you are how rare these mutations are. I have picked up a lacewing at my local pet store and I have also ended up breeding a couple of fallows because the parents are both split for fallows so it was a total surprise.
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Wow...I've seen pics of fallows and wanted one but figured they're like needles in a haystack! I kinda thought it was a bit of sales, or if I'm fair to them, what they believe is rare. To me a month ago i thought violet was rare! But I'm learning with what kinds of budgies there are and, odd though it sounds, i just enjoy going through ads out there to see the different kinds, cross referencing it to google, testing...eventually, if i know what it is.
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I didn't even know I had bred fallows until someone on here told me. There's nothing to suggest it looking at the parents so it's always interesting what you're going to get.

Here's what my two look like:

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Yes, it could be that in certain areas you don't get those mutations so they are rare for the area but it's different between being a rare mutation and rare to see around. I agree, I also thought a violet was fairly rare but I have two and a couple that have a bit of violet in them as well.

Sounds like you're having fun with your system anyway.
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Oh they are just beautiful! Absolutely stunning!
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Ive also liked the look of lacewings too but so many people call the ones with lacings lacewings. Understandable why...i have chooks so you see ones with laced wings so...but i like the actual lacewings. The albino kind.
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The two budgie pictures you posted aren't rare

The first looks to be a skyblue clearwing, the second is a grey normal, perhaps single factor violet.

Lacewings are indeed beautiful! It's true that a lot of people call spangles "lacewings", which is a good guess but actually is the other mutation
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It’s defiintely interesting to see how what is very hard to find in one geographical area is more attainable in another area. Out here in Southern California US, we are one of the places in the country and world that is on top when it comes to finding or seeing the more rare or uncommon parrot species.

BUT ironically, I’ve found that when it comes to the popular budgie, we only usually see very common color mutations. In fact it’s a challenge to find both a “good responsible” source who also has the more ‘interesting’ color mutations.
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How do you all choose budgies? I guess more importantly....not get them all! I had no idea how many varieties there are! And really they are all so beautiful.

Even those you discount at 1st, like a green or a blue, you see again and fall in love with. Or if one would ever want to breed, their type brings something into the mix. You read articles about it, and suddenly that 'blue one' is really a cobalt, yellow face, double factor' it becomes more alive than 'the blue one'. Well it does for me as i read about types.

I just love watching them as well. All the little social constructs. Who likes who. Who grooms who. Who is pulling the other's tail because they got the swing.

How do you...much more experienced budgie people ever choose which ones you like best? I thought i could easily say what might be a couple of months ago but reading, watching, has me asking could i really pick a type, colour, mutation. I dont know if i could!

So how do you 'not select'? to select those you want, eh easy peasy! But to say which you dont? Gosh that's hard. Or if you are breeders, which babies do you keep and which are sold?

I'm new and beginning so would be really useful to hear how you developed your system of elimination. Harsh way to say it as it sounds like you're getting rid of them but what i mean is, with an appreciation for the species how do you decide what not to have?
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