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Old 10-26-2018, 08:10 PM
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Question Not sure about mutation

Hello, as the title says, I'm not sure what mutation my budgie is. I think he could be some sort of pied, but I don't know which one he? could be. Does anyone have any possible ideas?
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I think he is a violet recessive pied. How old is he?
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I think he is a violet recessive pied. How old is he?
My guess is that he is around 8-10 months old. I had him for a few months now.
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I agree, cobalt violet recessive pied looks right
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He's gorgeous! Definitely agree with Starling on the mutation. :3
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Your budgie is a cutie . Both tonic and StarlingWings are great at telling us mutations.

I think when it’s said “violet” as the color, like tonic said above, it’s just another way to say cobalt violet. It means that the base color is cobalt, since violet is only a color adding factor, and can’t be a visual color on it’s own. So both tonic and SW are correct in what they said. Cobalt with a violet color adding factor makes a budgie as visually violet as possible. Then there’s double factor which makes it more intense. I’ll stop here because I don’t know any more about budgie color genetics .
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Your budgie is a cutie . Both tonic and StarlingWings are great at telling us mutations.

I think when itís said ďvioletĒ as the color, like tonic said above, itís just another way to say cobalt violet. It means that the base color is cobalt, since violet is only a color adding factor, and canít be a visual color on itís own. So both tonic and SW are correct in what they said. Cobalt with a violet color adding factor makes a budgie as visually violet as possible. Then thereís double factor which makes it more intense. Iíll stop here because I donít know any more about budgie color genetics .
You'd be right! Also, double factor violet skyblues can look like single factor violet cobalts, so I tend to just say violet unless I am sure which it is.
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Thank you all for the replies. How could you tell that he is a violet cobalt? The violet mutation is something I am still learning about.

Also, what makes you think that he is a recessive pied?
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The characteristics of recessive pied are the colored patches lower on the body and abdomen, with usually large amounts of base color such as the white on yours. The adults keep solid dark eyes throughout their lives, and adult males will keep juvenile cere color.

You’ll also find some interesting info on color mutations and genetics in the sub-forum of the Budgie Breeding section.
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How could you tell that he is a violet cobalt? The violet mutation is something I am still learning about.
The colouring of violet budgies changes depending on the number of dark factors they have. For white series budgies:

0 = skyblue
1 = cobalt
2 = mauve

A skyblue violet budgie displays very different colouring to a cobalt violet. Cobalt violet is considered the traditional "violet", whilst skyblue violet appears as a slightly darker shade of blue, somewhere in between skyblue and cobalt. (The budgie in my avatar is skyblue violet, for example).

The colouring also varies depending on the number of violet factors a budgie has, albeit far less so. It's a lot harder to determine the number of violet factors than it is the number of dark factors. Hope that helps!
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